Posts by westiebilly11

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Ending Bible Study

by Maria Nieves in

i have been studying with jehovah's witnesses for approximately two years.

initially, i liked the studies and felt that i was growing closer to god.

however, as the studies progressed, they seemed to become increasingly negative and i did not like what i was being taught.

westiebilly11

You mention that your study person has devoted time and years. No doubt you have a bond with them too. Sadly, it is that bond which hampers the ability to say No.

Perhaps you need to write a short honest letter to them and ask that they do not call round again. If that fails then a stronger letter may be needed to either them or the local elders at the hall. I suspect though, that if they ignore your first letter, you will probably feel a' little cross' and that, itself, will strengthen your resolve to tell them No..... But keep it polite, but firm..

As regards disfellowshipping etc, you are not at risk of such treatment...

Wish you well.

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Society Ditches Older Publications

by new boy in

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it has been reported that many of the older publications are being dumped.

the watchtower bible and truck society have a long list of books, pamphlets and brochures that are no longer available either in print or in their data base on their web sight.

of course the reason is that this books have a lot of old information that is incorrect, false prophecies, flip flops and a lot of "new light" that became old light.

westiebilly11

I've been reading Our Incoming World Govt- God's Kingdom..(1977). Quite an eye opener as to what was taught/thought back then.....

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Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Ever Do Anything For Anyone But Themselves?

by minimus in

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i was thinking of how witnesses were always admonished to take care of their own before they should ever help a worldly neighbor.

i don’t think they ever do anything for the community unless it’s a benefit to them..

westiebilly11

Most do only what will be seen by others. They seek praise for doing what most of us consider basic kindness. Their hearts are dead. Their allegiance isn't.

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THIS IS IT Tony Morris Identifies King of Norht

by scotoma in

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this is the announcement we have heard “about” but now it has been released to the whole world.

its in the 2nd of a three part serries about the jw annual meeting (oct 2018).

to minute 52. .

westiebilly11

...just a bigger carrot in front of the donkey....ensuring it keeps in pursuit..the end result being a thinner donkey and a mouldy carrot....

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"This system will probably be over in about 5 years"

by john.prestor in

i don't think i shared this story yet, it's strange and although i did a little detective work trying to figure out who said what and when i never found out much, big surprise, jehovah's witnesses love their secrets as we all know... but i thought other posters might find this interesting both in and of itself, because of what an elder told me one sunday back in 2011, and because of what it could imply as to high-ranking jehovah's witnesses prophesying the date of armageddon.

specific dates went out the window in 1975, although governing body helper ken flodin hinted at 2040 in a talk uploaded to jw.org a couple years back, and the governing body hinted at 2034 in a watchtower back in the 90s.

but it might be, just might, that more specific date-setting still goes on behind closed doors in certain circuits.... so after i went to "meetings" and talked to witnesses for a couple years at a rural congregation in the eastern united states an elder pulled me aside one service into the vestibule at the hall, in other words, into a private area where no one would overhear us.

westiebilly11

Delayed hope. Carrot forever on a stick. "Expectation postponed makes the heart sick.."

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Mark 13: 1-8 ...Not a composite sign/ two-fold prophecy scripture

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

this brother starts off with reading the following scriptures from the book of mark 13:1-8.

3 while he was sitting on the mount of olives across from the temple, peter, james, john, and andrew asked him privately, 4 “tell us, when will these things happen?

and what will be the sign when all these things are about to be accomplished?”.

westiebilly11

The danger of believing in something not understood.. Twist..and shake. JWs today.

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Reflecting On Death

by Charles Gillette in

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reflecting on death.

i can't remember, maybe steve jobs before he died.i thought i would share it with you and see what you think about it, and i'm quoting i think from his book.. "i'm about fifty-fifty on believing in god.

for most of my life, i've felt that there must be more to our own existence than meets the eye.. i might be overestimating the odds 50/50 out of a desire to believe in an afterlife.

westiebilly11

I knew nothing of life before my birth, and I shall probably know nothing after I'm dead. As a father, I'm also saddened that I brought children into the world only for them to one day die...Bitter truth. How I wish that there was more to life than that.

Kenneth Williams once said that if life is a joke, let's make it a good one.

Hopefully I shall leave the world in a better state than I found it, but perhaps not..! I dread death. I face my own mortality with trepidation and fear. But, it does seem inevitable. I did find the meetings and the hope of a better life etc a comfort at one time, but , sadly, little evidence to back it up.

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Crisis of Conscience is being delivered to my door today. I can't wait

by Fognomore in

since i have no one else to talk to about what i am going through, i just thought i would let this group know that i have .

crisis of conscience coming to my front door today.

i already know what i will say if my wife says something.

westiebilly11

Excellent book. Raymond throughout bears no malice or hatred towards anyone. He relates candidly various events and phase he passed through. I found it fascinating, not always easy to understand at first bite, but having carefully read it twice, it makes sense. ISOC is heavy going but equally revealing and refreshingly written.

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You Don't Have to Tell the Elders Anything!

by minimus in

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if you were ever brought before a judicial committee, and were about to be interrogated by the elders, just remember...you owe them nothing.

they are mere men and no better than you!

even if it wasn’t a judicial interrogation , you should never feel obligated to them.

westiebilly11

No, my late wife's carer was not a JW. She was part of a team of carers . Whilst most of the carers worked to rule and only did the minimum, this carer went out of her way to ensure my wife was comfortable, cared for, and even took her out in her mobility chair, unpaid. Had the carer been male, I'd have been equally appreciative.

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You Don't Have to Tell the Elders Anything!

by minimus in

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friends

if you were ever brought before a judicial committee, and were about to be interrogated by the elders, just remember...you owe them nothing.

they are mere men and no better than you!

even if it wasn’t a judicial interrogation , you should never feel obligated to them.

westiebilly11

My mistake was to be honest, trusting, and friendly. I was DF with no tangible evidence bar my own admittance that I had had a meal with my wife's carer in broad daylight (deemed to be 'brazen conduct') to repay her care and ,often unpaid, help. In hindsight, beneficial I know, I should have not played their game and made them ashamed of their unfounded accusations. One of the elders on the JC has since been removed from the congregation and transferred to another far away, as a result of his habitual interference in other's family lives...