Posts by Saintbertholdt

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First time here

by BarelyThere in

okay so here goes...this is my first time on here.

i'm lost and confused and am feeling very hopeless.

i was dfed in september and i am still wrapping my head around everything.

First time here

by BarelyThere in

okay so here goes...this is my first time on here.

i'm lost and confused and am feeling very hopeless.

i was dfed in september and i am still wrapping my head around everything.

Saintbertholdt

Everybody has already said everything good and relevant.

So hey there, welcome.

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United States baptism stats 1969-2015

by the comet in

whenever the new yearbooks come out, we all look at the figures and see the publisher increase never really matches up with the baptism figures.

it never should match up as all newly baptized ones are already publishers, and may have been for many years.

i, as an example, became an unbaptized publisher at age 11. i didn't get baptized until i was 17. .

Saintbertholdt

Why didn't I factor in the death rate? The simple answer is, I don't really know how to.

You could always use the annual average U.S. death rate per 1000 as a guide and proxy.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005131.html

Is there a reason that you're using average publishers and not peak publishers in this particular instance?

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Lurkers: Is it true that no servant of Jehovah in the bible celebrated birthdays?

by juandefiero in

did you know that job's family celebrated birthdays?

the word translated "his own day" at job 1:4 is the same word translated "day of his birth" in job 3:1. .

seems deceptive, does it not, to change that translation.

Russell was moving away from any sort of inter denominational Christian fellowship by the end of his career/life. Rutherford just continued the process to its logical conclusion: That being the total destruction of any form of ecumenical feelings between the Bible students and all other Christian denominations. This was done to demarcate the separateness and exclusivity of the Bible students.

That same attitude is cultivated in Jehovah's Witnesses today. If Christians have a practice or a new trend then Jehovah's Witnesses are automatically suspicious even if the Governing Body has made no specific pronouncement on the matter. Why? Because the idea of separateness is what counts and correctness or being reasonable is secondary. Case and point: Clambake just posted a topic where his wife and the congregation held a party on January 2 but she could not go to the Nov 15 end of year company shindig. Its all about separateness. The idea that you're in a new spiritual Israel and like the Israel of the OT you have to keep away from everybody and everything because Yahweh will have a conniption fit if you don't.

The practices the Witnesses object to are actually irrelevant. Its just done to contradict and disagree with every other denomination.

BTW I love your avatar and the word ecumenical, therefore a quote by Jack Sparrow: [to Weatherby Swann]

"I think we've all arrived at a very special place... spiritually, ecumenically... grammatically."

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Question about the number 2,520 and the book “New Heavens and a New Earth” (1953)

by Hecce in

question about the number 2,520 and the book “new heavens and a new earth” (1953).

there is a footnote on page 138 of this book; it has to do with the number 2,520 being a perfect number and the result of multiplying the four perfect numbers in sequence.

i have done the math and it works.

Saintbertholdt

This is just one of those I have to bookmark.

Numerology. Great!

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Evolution is a Fact #3 - ERVs

by cofty in

part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.

comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.

they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.

Saintbertholdt

Clambake, here are topics on JWN that people have responded to in the past 24 hours:

Will Western Democratic Nations , someday rue the day they welcomed Muslim migrants / Asylum seekers in their midst?
Is reality getting a right-wing bias? (the lefts tea-party moment)
Results of an international survey - Love, Health, Money, Power etc, what do you most want in life?
David Bowie
Powerball Jackpot up to 1.3 Billion Dollars. Do you think the governing body bought any tickets?
Cannabis And the Brain (The risk factors)

But you're on to Cofty's posts specifically because its about very solid evidence for evolution.

You're being confronted with a paradigm shift.

What are you going to do about it?

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Watchtower financial yearbook statements 1989-2016

by the comet in

since the 2016 yearbook yearbook was released i've been tearing through the numbers, trying to figure a few things out.

i have several different projects i'm working on, and this is one of them.

i looked through all the yearbooks from the 1989 one through 2016, the only thing they really state about money is how much they spent on; special pioneers, missionaries, and traveling overseers.

Saintbertholdt

Sooooo the Comet,

When can we see those tabulated figures?

Pretty please...

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Evolution is a Fact #3 - ERVs

by cofty in

part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.

comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.

they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.

Saintbertholdt

If anyone is truly interested in the subject enroll in your local university or read a book because this is all becoming quite annoying.

Clambake, you're obviously speaking for yourself. But I guess its irritating being confronted with evidence which just can't be explained away.

Just chillax man, its a couple of threads in an ocean of diversity.

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Evolution is a Fact #3 - ERVs

by cofty in

part 1 - protein functional redundancy.... part 2 - dna functional redundancy.... imagine you are teacher with suspicions that some of your pupils have been copying from each other.

comparing the correct answers in all of their assignments might not provide conclusive evidence.

they could simply claim they had all carefully revised the same textbooks so it shouldn't be surprising that they all gave the same answers.

Saintbertholdt

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Alan Rickman's Passing

by TipsyMangoTea in

alan rickman, best known to my generation as prof. severus snape from the harry potter film franchise, has passed away due to cancer at the age of 69.. growing up with a witness mother, anything related to science fiction and fantasy was looked down upon, so, naturally, i was a rebel rebel (oh david bowie...).. just wanted to let any potterheads know the news and that even if you feel like you'll never be free of the deadly watchtower, you're not alone and there's hope.. always..

Saintbertholdt

Am saddened to hear of this. Kind of eerie that he too passed away from cancer at 69... just like Bowie.

In the 70's many well known pop artists died of drug overdoses at 27.

Today the well known die at 69... from cancer.

How things have changed.