Posts by TMS

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What will the elders think?

by TMS in

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a week ago my wife and i ran into a jw nephew and his wife at the supermarket.

despite knowing that my wife and i are no longer jw's, he was very gracious, giving his aunt and i a warm hug and introducing his wife to us.

he casually mentioned meeting with the elders and their decision to disfellowship.

TMS

:What will the elders think?

Farkel: "Beware of the oxymoron. "Elders" and "think" never belong in the same sentence unless one is trying to draw a contrast"

Farkel,

Perhaps I should have phrased it " How will the elders react or respond?" The likely scenario finds the alpha male "elder" locating a Watchtower quote that most fits his personal point of view and coercing the other two to enforce it.

think (thngk)

v.thought (thôt) , think·ing, thinks v.tr. 1. To have or formulate in the mind. 2. a. To reason about or reflect on; ponder: Think how complex language is. Think the matter through. b. To decide by reasoning, reflection, or pondering: thinking what to do. 3. To judge or regard; look upon: I think it only fair. 4. To believe; suppose: always thought he was right. 5. a. To expect; hope: They thought she'd arrive early. b. To intend: They thought they'd take their time. 6. To call to mind; remember: I can't think what her name was. 7. To visualize; imagine: Think what a scene it will be at the reunion. 8. To devise or evolve; invent: thought up a plan to get rich quick. 9. To bring into a given condition by mental preoccupation: He thought himself into a panic over the impending examination. 10. To concentrate one's thoughts on: "Think languor" (Diana Vreeland). v.intr. 1. To exercise the power of reason, as by conceiving ideas, drawing inferences, and using judgment. 2. To weigh or consider an idea: They are thinking about moving. 3. a. To bring a thought to mind by imagination or invention: No one before had thought of bifocal glasses. b. To recall a thought or an image to mind: She thought of her childhood when she saw the movie. 4. To believe; suppose: He thinks of himself as a wit. It's later than you think. 5. To have care or consideration: Think first of the ones you love. 6. To dispose the mind in a given way: Do you think so? adj.Informal Requiring much thought to create or assimilate: a think book. n. The act or an instance of deliberate or extended thinking; a meditation tms

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What will the elders think?

by TMS in

jw
friends

a week ago my wife and i ran into a jw nephew and his wife at the supermarket.

despite knowing that my wife and i are no longer jw's, he was very gracious, giving his aunt and i a warm hug and introducing his wife to us.

he casually mentioned meeting with the elders and their decision to disfellowship.

TMS

I just knew Blondie would step forward with the appropriate quote. That was my recollection that it was considered defacing the body, although, as with everything the Wt tries to rule on, an exception has to be made, like pierced ears in some cultures for females. Thanks, Blondie.

OTWO, I'm no longer in the business of influencing belief systems, although I'm very comfortable answering any questions. What works best anyway if for folks to learn for themselves.

tms

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What will the elders think?

by TMS in

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friends

a week ago my wife and i ran into a jw nephew and his wife at the supermarket.

despite knowing that my wife and i are no longer jw's, he was very gracious, giving his aunt and i a warm hug and introducing his wife to us.

he casually mentioned meeting with the elders and their decision to disfellowship.

TMS

My impression is that he got the tatoo to show his commitment to the god of the universe. He's lived an almost seamless double life for a long time, viewed at the Kingdom Hall as an ideal young JW male, but with his other foot out into the current popular culture. He is doing his own thing. Watchtower control is like the proverbial water on a duck's back, but, yes, I doubt that he will be a JW very long.

tms

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What will the elders think?

by TMS in

jw
friends

a week ago my wife and i ran into a jw nephew and his wife at the supermarket.

despite knowing that my wife and i are no longer jw's, he was very gracious, giving his aunt and i a warm hug and introducing his wife to us.

he casually mentioned meeting with the elders and their decision to disfellowship.

TMS

A week ago my wife and I ran into a JW nephew and his wife at the supermarket. Despite knowing that my wife and I are no longer JW's, he was very gracious, giving his aunt and I a warm hug and introducing his wife to us. He casually mentioned meeting with the elders and their decision to disfellowship. He was actually, at that point in the interim 7 day period before announcement of his DF-ing. He felt the DF-ing would "help him straighten out his life". He and his wife, both the children of elders, seemed very upbeat.

Today, Christmas Day, we ran into this same nephew. Again, hugs and a warm greeting. He wanted to show us something. On his wrist, he had a tatoo of the tetragrammaton.

tms

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Changes after 1942 are new light from God or an apostasy by the Devil's influence?

by Andrew Derevyanko in

the scriptures and the physical facts clearly show that the work which bible students and jehovah's witnesses did from 1878 till 1942 are not just work of men charles taze russel and joseph franklin rutherford, who were chief servants in the visible part of jehovah's organization, but that such work is a product of god's spirit and in fulfilment of his prophecies written long ago through faithful men of old.. after the days of the apostles of christ jesus gross darkness covered those who were called christians and many began to practice religion or the traditions of men rather than the bible teachings.

then in 1878 till 1918 there was a work of preparing the way before jehovah's coming to the temple through his official representative christ jesus.

(malachi 3:1)such work was done to prepare before the lord a "people for his name" that such ones should be witnesses to his name and kingdom.

TMS

Dear Brother Derevyanko,

So many of the young ones on this board do not remember what a true servant of the Lord Brother Rutherford was. They can't see past his whoremongering, alcoholism and outlandish writings. The Judge was rare example of courage, allowing the WWII brethren to be tarred and feathered, jailed, mocked and persecuted for the Lord's sake while he himself never went in field service.

May Jehovah grant his she-bears the pleasure of ripping the flesh of these Servants of Satan! Say Aye!

tms

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VERY DEEP QUESTIONS for elect/annointed/those with insight/holy spirit/etc

by EndofMysteries in

only need answer if you have already researched, come to an understanding, or have seen this and currently figuring it out.

if you have no idea what i'm talking about, then question doesn't apply to you as i feel it's information that is only understood at the right time and to those allowed to get understanding of it.. ***if you would like to give me some answers, but feel the information can't be posted publically or your restricted in whom to give it to, feel free to message me directly.

that's also why i am asking these questions in a way in which only you would understand, but i do not know how to find you otherwise.. .

TMS

EOM comments on the issues he must balance as god's spokesperson:

" I am very careful in what I publish for all to see, so as not to overstep and announce knowledge God may want to remain hidden for the time being or that somebody with bad intentions uses the information"

EOM and his god have knowledge other Earth and possibly heavenly beings cannot access. EOM's god is not all-powerful as EOM could release knowledge to the universe but chooses not to do so in deference to his weak god. EOM further reveals the weakness of his god in being powerless to stop "those with bad intentions" from misusing such heretofore hidden knowledge should EOM choose to release it.

EOM, you represent your god as weak, ineffective, totally dependent on your cooperation to release information at the appropriate time to those with good intentions. If your god actually exists you do him a great disservice by defaming him in this way. If he is your invention, you need to go back to the drawing board as the god you portray is pitiful and ineffectual.

tms

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VERY DEEP QUESTIONS for elect/annointed/those with insight/holy spirit/etc

by EndofMysteries in

only need answer if you have already researched, come to an understanding, or have seen this and currently figuring it out.

if you have no idea what i'm talking about, then question doesn't apply to you as i feel it's information that is only understood at the right time and to those allowed to get understanding of it.. ***if you would like to give me some answers, but feel the information can't be posted publically or your restricted in whom to give it to, feel free to message me directly.

that's also why i am asking these questions in a way in which only you would understand, but i do not know how to find you otherwise.. .

TMS

EOM,

Without addressing or wrapping my feeble mind around the great truths revealed to you, I will anticipate how various segments of society might describe your bearing and point of view.

1. Young people will describe you as "fake-deep".

2. The blue collar crowd will view you as a "full-of-yourself know-it-all".

3. Mental health professionals will use the word "delusional" in their description of your mental state.

4. Veteran JWD posters will view you as a condescending Bible thumper and waste of time.

tms

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The Two Creepy Commandments

by Farkel in

there are a few bible verses i'm going to discuss that probably don't bother anyone but me.

in fact, most people, including ex-dubs think they are wonderful verses.

i think they are really, really creepy verses.

TMS

farkel,

unconditional love for your essay!

tms

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Do the "top" men in the WTBTS go in field service?

by HappyGuy in

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i read in a letter from walter salter to j. f. rutherford that salter states that rutherford does not go in field service and salter admonishes rutherford to start going in field service so that he will "know what you are talking about".. i found this a bit surprising.

so, i want to ask anyone who knows the inner workings at the hqs.

do the top men go in field service?

TMS

JT, the former Bethelite who used to post in this forum, spoke of a young Bethelite's responsibility to purchase a Sunday New York Times for Brother Knorr and other GB members at the time. and deliver them personally to their Bethel apartment doors. Knorr and his cronies were in bathrobe and slippers Sunday morning while the JW rank and file preached.

tms

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C.O.'s: Why Are Elders Such Cowards?

by metatron in

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the stories never stop.

abusive, egotistical, demanding, ungrateful and arrogant circuit overseers all over the place and "men" -the elders - take it.. i have seen a number of these itinerant predators offend entire congregations with their behavior and i can count the incidents where elders actually showed some b@lls and stood up to them on one hand.

why are elders such cowards?

TMS

Good for you, truman.