DATA-DOG
Although a born in, I am still confused about when is Nissan 14... anyone can explain plz
greetings to all jwn members and lurkers,.
i would like to extend all a warm-hearted invitation for our upcoming memorial this march 26th 2013, we will be having the lord's supper at sundown in a jehovah's witness kingdom hall near you.as you can see in this invitation, jesus died for all and that includes abraham, tyndale, pastor russell and many others.
maybe you can identify the remaining key people on the top left side of jesus.we will have a wonderful talk about how jesus gave his life for all humankind thus opening the doors for everlasting life.you can all go to our official website www.jw.org and find the nearest kh where you live, under the tab about us and then go to meetings.you and your family are all invited and it is free.
DATA-DOG
Although a born in, I am still confused about when is Nissan 14... anyone can explain plz
greetings to all jwn members and lurkers,.
i would like to extend all a warm-hearted invitation for our upcoming memorial this march 26th 2013, we will be having the lord's supper at sundown in a jehovah's witness kingdom hall near you.as you can see in this invitation, jesus died for all and that includes abraham, tyndale, pastor russell and many others.
maybe you can identify the remaining key people on the top left side of jesus.we will have a wonderful talk about how jesus gave his life for all humankind thus opening the doors for everlasting life.you can all go to our official website www.jw.org and find the nearest kh where you live, under the tab about us and then go to meetings.you and your family are all invited and it is free.
Oh the famous Tydale... the WT is always looking for ways to confirm how they are the only TRUE ORG.
trouble brewing in australia for the gb.
the situation is turning cloudy for the current gb in australia.
when ever you have kids fighting against deplorable behavior is always a sign of something more sinister behind the organization.anyone has any update on this story?http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/child-in-jehovahs-witness-court-bid-20130217-2elcg.htmla traralgon child has clubbed his pocket money together with three others, paying $69.70 to launch a private criminal prosecution against the jehovah's witnesses.. the child, 11, who is due to give evidence on monday at the state inquiry into how the churches handled child sex abuse, wanted to force the church to comply with working with children laws.
Trouble brewing in Australia for the GB
The situation is turning cloudy for the current GB in Australia. When ever you have kids fighting against deplorable behavior is always a sign of something more sinister behind the organization. Anyone has any update on this story? http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/child-in-jehovahs-witness-court-bid-20130217-2elcg.htmlA TRARALGON child has clubbed his pocket money together with three others, paying $69.70 to launch a private criminal prosecution against the Jehovah's Witnesses.
The child, 11, who is due to give evidence on Monday at the state inquiry into how the churches handled child sex abuse, wanted to force the church to comply with working with children laws. After four hearings, to which church leaders did not send a representative, the church began complying and the Office of Public Prosecutions intervened to discontinue the case.
The inquiry will also hear from anti-Jehovah's Witness campaigner Steven Unthank, a former member of the church who says he and his family were ostracised and persecuted after he tried to tackle child abuse.
His submission alleges the church and its incorporated body, the Watchtower Society, covered up criminal child abuse, including rape, sexual assault, death threats, blackmail and assault, across four states by ordained ministers and officers of the church.
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The Victorian and Civil Administrative Tribunal will hear a religious vilification complaint against the church by Mr Unthank in May, after the church said people who left the church, as he had, were ''mentally diseased''.
And the Victorian Health Services Commissioner is investigating a complaint by another former Gippsland church member that a Jehovah's Witness chaplain was found alone without permission with a naked toddler in a room at Latrobe Regional Hospital.
The child appearing today, who cannot be named, has asked the inquiry to determine whether the church's failure to get working with children checks between July 2008 and December 2011 amounted to criminal child abuse of all 6160 Jehovah's Witness children in Victoria.
He asks why the government and police let the church ''get away with'' non-compliance, and whether the state will help file a class action against the church.
The submission suggests the 2000 Jehovah's Witnesses who worked with children were committing criminal offences each week. These included ministers, elders, chaplains, teachers, volunteers, publishers (a term for people who doorknock) and even people who repair the church premises, called Kingdom Halls, ''as they use child labour to save money''.
The child says he and his family have also been ostracised by the church and forbidden to attend services. ''Because everyone protected them, I have now lost my religion.
''The state of Victoria allowed this to happen.''
The four children launched their prosecution with a magistrate's permission on July 26, 2011. In October 2011 the church's Governing Body wrote to all Victorian congregations, telling them to get the checks. At the final court hearing, on February 21, 2012, the Director of Public Prosecutions discontinued the case, saying it was not in the public interest.
''How can [tackling] child abuse not be in the public interest? How can criminal charges be discontinued after the person refused to turn up to court of five separate occasions?'' the child asks. He wants charges reinstated against church leaders.
A spokeswoman for the Office of Public Prosecutions said the charges were withdrawn because there was no reasonable prospect of conviction.
Vincent Toole, solicitor for the Jehovah's Witnesses, said the fact that the church got working with children checks had nothing to do with Steven Unthank, whom he suggested was behind the court case. ''We find it disappointing that he continues to misrepresent our organisation.''
Mr Toole said Mr Unthank unsuccessfully tried to get authorities to take action against the church over working with children checks, and ''after none were prepared to pursue the matter, he took the extraordinary step of instituting a private prosecution''.
''Jehovah's Witnesses abhor child abuse, and place the protection of children at the highest level,'' he said.
the obvious answer to that is: yes!
jwn has a number of former elders who awakened to ttatt while they held their position, and a handful of current elders who help provide needed intel.. .
later, i learned he and his wife had faded, and both of his grown sons know ttatt as well.. .
Let me share some intel with all... I am currently a MS and Pioneer, I am fully awake to TTATT. The BOE in my congo are grooming me to appoint me as an elder (I guess the holy spirit is directing them ) The most common trend I see is that people are fading leaving no trace behind.
soon babylon will fall!
because the government will be able to prosecute the ex-pope because of past sins.
it will be interesting to see what spin will the wt give to this news....
Soon Babylon will FALL! Because the government will be able to prosecute the ex-Pope because of past sins. It will be interesting to see what spin will the WT give to this news...
we had our special assembly day this weekend.. what the district overseer stated in his talk totally stunned me, and made me feel sick to my stomach.
he said, "christ is directing us through the governing body, and we cannot get holy spirit except through them!".
i do not wish to reveal all my thoughts on his statement, but i pray to god that it acts as a wake-up call to at least some of the audience.. suffice to say that the gb is now the mediator to our mediator, and from now on, i will have to pray for holy spirit through the name of the gb!!.
I will be paying close attention in my SA this coming June.
Searcher,
What is the name of the talk?
the cycle continues.... two weeks ago a loving and fragile sister passed away due to her age and chronic health, she only had one son and 2 grandsons.
(she was the only jw in her family)when my wife gave me the sad news we immediately went over to the hospital to give some words of comfort to the grieving family.. .
what happened next was another cruel example of works for salvation vs. good deeds from love.
The cycle continues...
Two weeks ago a loving and fragile sister passed away due to her age and chronic health, she only had one son and 2 grandsons. (She was the only JW in her family)When my wife gave me the sad news we immediately went over to the hospital to give some words of comfort to the grieving family.
What happened next was another cruel example of works for salvation VS. good deeds from love One elder started calling all elders from the cong. and guess what the pioneering elder said.... Elder pioneer: Brother (such and such) I am behind in my hours and on Saturdays I need to put in my time. I can't go! Elder who called: What?... OK no problem
Now what is wrong with this picture?? The elder who had to put in time is considered spiritually strong, his father is a CO substitute, he gives talks in CA and DA etc... Yet no one corrected him for showing no love and care for others. All I could remember was Jesus words:Amplified Bible (AMP)
34 I give you a new commandment: that you should love one another. Just as I have loved you, so you too should love one another.
35 By this shall all [men] know that you are My disciples, if you love one another [if you keep on showing love among yourselves].
i read in a forum in spanish that there is a strong rumor spreading in the corridors of the wt.
has anyone heard anything about this??
the change that is emerging is this: the great crowd has not yet appeared, and it is a group that comes out of the great tribulation.
i wanted to start a thread about the most disturbing quotes that you all have found in watchtower publications.
i just came across this one when responding to another thread.
i'm sure there are many more disturbing quotes out there.
"The evidence of the holy spirit in the quality and content of the writings published by the Watchtower Society should be the thing that satisfies, that convinces, together with a comparison of these things with the inspired Word of God, the Holy Scriptures." (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1959, p. 607-608)
i wanted to start a thread about the most disturbing quotes that you all have found in watchtower publications.
i just came across this one when responding to another thread.
i'm sure there are many more disturbing quotes out there.
“Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible. For this reason the Bible cannot be properly understood without Jehovah’s visible organization in mind.”—The Watchtower, October 1, 1967, p. 587