Posts by suavojr

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Why study the Bible?New JW video and propaganda

by suavojr in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpfnsn2yvc.

suavojr

WoW DD spot on! you said:

It's simple. You are guaranteed to have no spiritual breaking point. Can you die in a super-typhoon? Yes. Can you die in a bus on the way to a DC? Yes. Can you die on the way to the Memorial, in a car accident? Yes, true story, happened last year.. Can you die in Mexico, murdered in your own home? Yes.. Can you die of old age after shit-canning your educational opportunities and selling your belongings? Yes..

It is amazing how these people offer nothing but promise you so much fineprint

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The Current State of the Watchtower & The Cynicism of Soviet Communism

by cofty in

i am reading a book by victor sebestyn called "revolution 1989 - the fall of the soviet empire".

if you lived through the astonishing collapse of communism in the late '80s i highly recommend it.. what has struck me is the description of life under communism in the six soviet satellite states of east germany, poland, czechoslovakia, hungary, romania and bulgaria.. here is a couple of paragraphs that really stood out to me as a possible parallel to the current climate in the regime of jw.org.. ---------------------------------------------------------.

once idealism or revolutionary fervour had disappeared - certainly by the soviet invasion of czechosloakia in 1968 - the system stagnated.

suavojr

What I learn from this book, is how similar JW's are with communism. Great thread as always cofty!

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Elders receive a report that I am openly displaying false religious symbol

by confusedandalone in

when you look at the image above what do you see?

a sneaker or an outward display that i am now following after another religious group?.

well yesterday i had a 10 minute conversation with an elder who finally got the balls to call me.

suavojr

They are going to get you one way or another... be ready for a JC and to discuss your clothing likes. WHAT A JOKE!! TRUE PHARISEE STYLE

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Why study the Bible?New JW video and propaganda

by suavojr in

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friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpfnsn2yvc.

suavojr

Why should we not study the Bible?

I will give you some answers:

contraditions

exaggerations

genocide

rape

hate

cruelty from God

anonymus authors ( Where have I seen this one before?)

magic and miracles

What other reasons do you have?

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Why study the Bible?New JW video and propaganda

by suavojr in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpfnsn2yvc.

suavojr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skpfNsn2yvc

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The TRUTH about Jehovah's Wittnesses (from MY 22 YRS. EXPERIENCE) - A MUST READ!

by gmason972 in

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i have learned to stay away from all religion and jehovahs wittness doctrine (that includes the watchtower and awake magazines).

stay away from positions of ministerial servant, pioneer, aux pioneer, elder, and the like.

once you become a full fledged jehovah wittness you are doomed to be unhappy.

suavojr

Welcome! The truth behind the WT mantra is that you are not happier when you do more for the org. When we wake up to the lies and figure out how happy we can be without the WT, that's when you start enjoying true freedom!

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evolution vs God mr comfort

by unstopableravens in

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Unstop...

Science is all about arguments, evidence and critical assessment from past findings and future discoveries.

At the other extreme, faith can simply mean something like a guiding assumption or presupposition, and on this view, science does require faith. But when you take the idea of the existence of God, and simply state that God has always existed and will always exist. Makes you wonder how could that be logical? What proof do we have for that statement to be true?

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Atheists, what is the best argument FOR God?

by bohm in

there are no convincing arguments for god, but some are worse than others.

i thought it would be interesting to see what people consider the best (of the bad) arguments for god?.

in my oppinion it is the fine-tuning argument from cosmology.

suavojr

Oh unstop! You are funny... you are using that video as proof???? Why don't you also watch the counter argument?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0u3-2CGOMQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0k9NyHh7TQ

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MEXICO | Jehovah's Witness Family of 8 Massacred including three Children

by jwleaks in

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eight family members killed in mexico massacremexico | november 17, 2013. mexican police found sunday a family of eight, including three children, stabbed to death and tied down in their home in the northern city of ciudad juarez.. a two-year-old boy survived the attack and was handed to neighbors, local police said.. the chihuahua state prosecutor's office said the assailants apparently forced their way inside the house and killed two men, three women and three children between the ages of four and six.. their mouths were covered with duct tape and their hands and feet were tied.

neighbors said they heard gun shots but authorities said the victims had stab wounds.. neighbors said the house owner was a car salesman.. the family was supposed to attend a meeting of jehovah's witnesses when they were attacked inside their home on sunday morning, according to testimonies.. they were discovered dead after members of the congregation went to look for them.. ciudad juarez, which borders the us state of texas, was once the deadliest city in mexico amid a turf war between drug cartels.. more than 10,000 people have been killed in the city since 2006 but the murder rate began to decline in 2011.. local officials say the drop in violence is due to tougher policing and crime prevention programs, but security experts believe it began to wane after the sinaloa drug cartel defeated the rival juarez gang.. read latest breaking news from newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mexico-crime-murder/2013/11/17/id/537112#ixzz2kziajt8f.

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suavojr

Regardless of our beliefs a ytitme something like this happens is tragic. Like blondie said, at least they went to check up on them and did not find out a week after. Mexico is in some deep problems!

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When was the significance of the year 1919 first stated?

by jwfacts in

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when was it first introduced that the watchtower organisation was chosen in 1919?

i expect this was something first published under rutherford, as a way of making his leadership more important than that of russell, but would like some evidence to back that claim up.. .

suavojr

This guy has some interesting info and exposes how Russell taught the WT had already been chosen in 1874 not 1919

http://richkelsey.org/Jehovah's_Witnesses_1914_and_1919_Doctrines_Examined.html