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Were visiting briefly to try to clear up a misconception about Genesis 1:1

by suavojr in

this to me is simply unreal!

imagine having to answer the following:.

km 2014. awake march 2014. were visiting briefly to try to clear up a misconception that many have about this bible verse.

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But don't worry, our magazines are better than any explanation from those worldly scientists.

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Were visiting briefly to try to clear up a misconception about Genesis 1:1

by suavojr in

this to me is simply unreal!

imagine having to answer the following:.

km 2014. awake march 2014. were visiting briefly to try to clear up a misconception that many have about this bible verse.

suavojr

This to me is simply unreal! Imagine having to answer the following:

KM 2014

AWAKE March 2014
“We’re visiting briefly to try to clear up a misconception that many have about this Bible verse. [Read Genesis 1:1.] Some believe this, that the universe was created, while others do not. May I ask what your opinion is? [Allow for response.] Many have trouble believing in creation because religious leaders teach something that the Bible really doesn’t say. This magazine presents the Bible’s logical and credible explanation of the beginning of the universe.”

Amazing how they blame religious leaders for making people stop believing in God and then say that the MAGAZINE can present the Bible’s logical and credible explanation of the beginning of the universe.

This is simply one of the most ignorant arguments that I have read in a while. Can you imagine starting a conversation like this with someone like cofty? lol

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Never to be forgotten statements by Christians!

by fulltimestudent in

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" to assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneus as to claim that jesus was not born of a virgin.".

cardinal bellarmine, 1633.

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Marked

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My notes from my WT study for/ Creation Reveals the Living God

by suavojr in

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i leave you with the notes i wrote in the margins of my mag during today's wt study.

this was the only way i was able to survive this horrible article.

have fun reading and hopefully this will help lurkers.. .

suavojr

And to think that I used to be amazed with these types of articles. Goes to show you how religious leaders try to keep the people in the dark in order to manipulate them. Once your mind wakes up TTATT you can never shut it down.

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My notes from my WT study for/ Creation Reveals the Living God

by suavojr in

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i leave you with the notes i wrote in the margins of my mag during today's wt study.

this was the only way i was able to survive this horrible article.

have fun reading and hopefully this will help lurkers.. .

suavojr

I leave you with the notes I wrote in the margins of my mag during today's WT study. This was the only way I was able to survive this horrible article. Have fun reading and hopefully this will help lurkers.

Creation Reveals the Living God

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2One widespread false teaching that blinds people to the truth about God is the doctrine of evolution.

(Why is the WT scared to explain what evolution truly is? Why will they just simply dismiss this teaching as false but believe and teach as truth all other science finding that can promote their teachings?)This human reasoning contradicts the Bible and robs people of hope. (So finding out that after a lifetime of work for the WT and ending up with no children, no money and bad health is a better way of life?) In its basic form, the teaching of evolution asserts that all life came into existence spontaneously; it thus implies that human life has no purpose.

3On the other hand, fundamentalists of Christendom teach that the universe, including our earth and all life on it, is only a few thousand years old. Those who teach this doctrine—known as creationism—may have high regard for the Bible, but they contend that God created all things in six 24-hour days just a few thousand years ago. They reject credible scientific evidence that contradicts their view. (I am happy the GB is open to Science when it suits their agenda… but when decades of research guides us towards a nontheist world view then it’s false)

As a result, the teaching of creationism actually discredits the Bible, making it appear unreasonable and inaccurate. Individuals who promote such views might remind us of some in the first century who had a zeal for God “but not according to accurate knowledge.” (Rom. 10:2) How can we use God’s Word to overturn the “strongly entrenched” doctrines of evolution and creationism? * We can do so only if we personally work hard to gain an accurate knowledge of what the Bible teaches.

4The Bible teaches us to treasure knowledge. (Prov. 10:14) Jehovah wants our faith in him to be built on evidence and sound reasoning, not on human philosophy or religious traditions. (ReadHebrews 11:1.)(Religious faith is based in emotions and thoughts that humans see as realities in their own mind. Thus another person cannot prove someone else’s personal belief)To build strong faith in God, we must first be convincedthat Jehovah exists. (ReadHebrews 11:6.)We arrive at that conclusion, not by wishful thinking, but by examining the facts and by using our “power of reason.”—Rom. 12:1.

5. What is one reason why we can be convinced that God exists?

5The apostle Paul provides one reason why we can be convinced that God exists, even though we cannot see him. Regarding Jehovah, Paul wrote: “His invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship.” (Rom. 1:20)(I love this thought… The invisibility of God or should we say the hiddenness of God clearly proves that either he is there helping, does not care, or hey! maybe this bible God isn’t around)How might you help someone who doubts the existence of God to see the truthfulness of Paul’s inspired words? You could consider some of the following evidence from creation that reveals our Creator’s power and wisdom.

GOD’S POWER EVIDENT IN CREATION

Just curious,

Where would religion be today without all the hard work and discoveries from critical-thinkers and science advancements?

Answer: This WT article would not exist…

6, 7. How is Jehovah’s power revealed in two shields that protect us?

6Jehovah’s power is revealed in two shields that keep us safe—the earth’s atmosphere and its magnetic field. The atmosphere, for example, does more than provide us with air to breathe. It also shields us from the majority of the debris that hurtles through space. Chunks of rock that could cause massive damage usually burn up on entering the earth’s atmosphere, creating beautiful bright streaks of light in the night sky.

7The earth’s magnetic field also protects us from harm. This shield originates deep inside the earth. The earth’s outer core, mostly made of molten iron, generates a powerful magnetic field that envelops us and stretches far into space. This field safeguards us from the radiation emanating from solar flares and explosions in the outer regions of the sun. Thanks to the earth’s magnetic field, these bursts of energy do not scorch all life on the surface of our globe. Instead, they are absorbed and deflected. We see evidence of our magnetic shield at work in the gorgeous multicolored light displays that dance in the sky near the North and South poles. Without a doubt, Jehovah is “vigorous in power.”—ReadIsaiah 40:26. Where did this energy come from? I know, I know! It has always existed, it was never created, it's God.

GOD’S WISDOM REVEALED IN NATURE

8, 9. How is Jehovah’s wisdom revealed in the cycles that sustain life?

8 Jehovah’s wisdom is revealed in the cycles that sustain life on earth. To illustrate: Imagine living in a densely populated walled city that had no way of importing fresh water or exporting waste products. Such a city would soon become filthy and uninhabitable. In some respects, our earth is like that walled city. It contains a finite amount of fresh water, and we can hardly export waste products into outer space. This “walled city,” however, is able to support billions of creatures, generation after generation. Why? Because of its amazing ability to recycle or exchange the products vital for life.

If we use this illustration and apply it to our blue planet, I want to understand why we have to recycle trash, plastic, metal, dispose of radioactive material, reduce our carbon foot print since our planet is prepared to remove all of these things on its own. What would happen with our trash and air if we were to stop doing any of the above?

9 Consider the oxygen cycle. Billions of creatures take in oxygen and give off carbon dioxide. Even so, the supply of oxygen never runs out, and the atmosphere never becomes choked with the “waste” gas, carbon dioxide. Why not? The answer is found in an amazing process known as photosynthesis. Using this process, green vegetation takes in carbon dioxide, water, sunlight, and nutrients and produces carbohydrates and oxygen. When we take in oxygen, we complete the cycle. In a literal way, Jehovah uses the vegetation that he designed to give “to all persons life and breath.” (Acts 17:25) What remarkable wisdom!

10Jehovah’s brilliance is also revealed in the multitude of creatures that inhabit our remarkable planet. Estimates of the number of species on earth vary from 2 million to 100 million. (ReadPsalm 104:24.)Note the wisdom evident in the design of just some of these creatures.

Since religious leaders are afraid of going beyond 6,000 years. How many species have disappeared in the last 6,000 years? No God has intervened, no God has ever shown its saving power and the best thing the bible God has done is send himself. No wait! I mean his son which is himself… to die a brutal death for all.

12Even more impressive is the way that Jehovah designed the cells that make up all living creatures. Your body, for instance, is made up of about 100 trillion cells. Inside each of those cells is a tiny ropelike structure known as DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid). It stores most of the information needed to build your entire body.

The world was in the dark until the existence of DNA was discovered in the mid 19th century. However, it was only in the early 20th century that researchers began suggesting that it might store genetic information. This gained almost universal acceptance after the structure of DNA was elucidated by James D. Watson and Francis Crick in their 1953 Nature publication.

Where was God guiding these men of science?

13How much information does DNA contain? Compare the storage capacity of one gram of DNA with that of a compact disc (CD). A CD can store all the information contained in a dictionary, which is impressive considering that a CD is merely a thin disc of plastic. However, just one gram of DNA can store as much information as one trillion CDs! To put it another way, a single teaspoonful of dried DNA can store enough information to build 350 times as many humans as are alive today!

I will leave you with a quote from Carl Sagan

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.”

Why does the bible state we are made from dust?

14. How do the discoveries made by scientists make you feel about Jehovah?

With this question, how can I trust science if I cannot trust them about evolution?

Topic for my own research:

Was David talking really talking about DNA?

14King David described the information needed to build a human body as being written in a figurative book. Speaking of Jehovah God, he said: “Your eyes saw even the embryo of me, and in your book all its parts were down in writing, as regards the days when they were formed and there was not yet one among them.” (Ps. 139:16) Understandably, David was moved to praise Jehovah when he considered the way his own body was created. The discoveries made by scientists in recent years have only added to the awe we feel when we contemplate the way that Jehovah made us. These discoveries give us added reason for agreeing with the psalmist who wrote of Jehovah: “I shall laud you because in a fear-inspiring way I am wonderfully made. Your works are wonderful, as my soul is very well aware.” (Ps. 139:14) Really, how could people notsee that creation reveals the existence of a living God?

16In recent years, most issues of Awake!have carried the feature “Was It Designed?” These brief articles highlight the awe-inspiring engineering evident in creation and identify ways that man has tried to copy the Master Designer. We received additional material to help bring glory to God with the release in 2010 of the brochure Was Life Created?The beautiful pictures and teaching diagrams in that publication are designed to stimulate our appreciation for Jehovah’s creative ability. The questions at the end of each section help the reader to reason on the information he just considered. Have you enjoyed using this brochure when witnessing from house to house, publicly, or in an informal setting?

Why not publish articles showing the evolution side and compare with these articles? We know why.

The rest of this WT article is pure indoctrination!

19The well-researched material that we receive through Jehovah’s organization helps us discern his beautiful qualities in the world around us. YOU REALLY WANT TO GO THERE GB?This is sound evidence WHAT EVIDENCE? WHERE IS IT? YOUR CIRCULAR REASONING?that causes us to bubble over with praise for our God. (Ps. 19:1, 2) What a privilege we have to give Jehovah, the Creator of all things, the honor and glory he so richly deserves!—1 Tim. 1:17.

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How the Governing Body celebrated after the launch of the new NWT!

by 3Mozzies in

we can only imagine what they did on that night .

for more of my mock wt & awake covers, click 'here'.

cheers.

suavojr

Real nice! But I think you should have used male legs instead....lol

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Interview with an Apostate: Simon

by Simon in

i had an idea for coming up with a standard(ish) set of interview questions which members of the ex-jw community could use to provide insights into their lives as a kind of series (yeah, i was thinking of "interview with a vampire", lol).. anyway, this is the result to show the sort of thing i'm thinking of (applied to myself) and i'd like feedback on the format and the questions as well as who you'd also like to see "interviewed".. feel free to provide your own life story as a separate topic or ask any additional questions that i've missed.

it's not meant to be rigid so questions / themes can be adapted as needed and split / joined as appropriate.

the common questions will hopefully apply to everyone for some consistency and to guide the writing process with additional questions asked that make sense to each subject.. well, here goes .... tell us a little about yourself and your family.. im an independent software developer who grew up in manchester (uk) but now lives in calgary (canada) with my wife angharad and two boys, liam and dylan.

suavojr

There is a sucker born every minute... if we look at history we can see that we will probably just invent new bogus stories to make us feel better or to control others. But I don't want to lose all hope in humanity and at least I am one more who knows religion is a delusion.

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Interview with an apostate: Endofmysteries

by EndofMysteries in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. i woke up prior to having my 'own' family.

a big chunk of my immediate and closest relatives are jw's, which i have limited contact with.

non jw relatives were happy to connect / get reconnected.

suavojr

Thanks EOM!

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Interview with an Apostate: Simon

by Simon in

i had an idea for coming up with a standard(ish) set of interview questions which members of the ex-jw community could use to provide insights into their lives as a kind of series (yeah, i was thinking of "interview with a vampire", lol).. anyway, this is the result to show the sort of thing i'm thinking of (applied to myself) and i'd like feedback on the format and the questions as well as who you'd also like to see "interviewed".. feel free to provide your own life story as a separate topic or ask any additional questions that i've missed.

it's not meant to be rigid so questions / themes can be adapted as needed and split / joined as appropriate.

the common questions will hopefully apply to everyone for some consistency and to guide the writing process with additional questions asked that make sense to each subject.. well, here goes .... tell us a little about yourself and your family.. im an independent software developer who grew up in manchester (uk) but now lives in calgary (canada) with my wife angharad and two boys, liam and dylan.

suavojr

Thank you Simon :)

I liked this part of your comment:

Religion is the ultimate ponzi scheme where the price you pay is your life and you sacrifice others to get ahead. But you'll never meet the man at the top or receive the payout you have been promised by previous victims.

I do foresee that with the age of information and the continued hidenness of God will cause future generations to wake up.

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#3 talk tonight

by wallsofjericho in

anyone else have a #3 talk tonight?

i wrote a talk but i don't like it.. anyone have one written they wanna post?

i'll show you mine if you show me yours!

suavojr

My wife has this part and she was complaining that she did see how to answer the question with those bible versus. When they talk about Jesus they ignore all the other versus that can elevate him higher than the GB.