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  Luke's Account Of The Roman Census And Jesus Birthday Conflict

  by frankiespeakin in

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  i think this website on the subject helps one see the tweaking nature of stories passed on about gods and men.. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2001/what-did-the-census-at-the-time-of-the-birth-of-christ-accomplish.

  luke 2:1-6. in those days a decree went out from caesar augustus that all the world should be enrolled.

  this was the first enrollment, when quirinius was governor of syria.

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  Bobcat

  I will check it out! Thanks
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  Luke's Account Of The Roman Census And Jesus Birthday Conflict

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think this website on the subject helps one see the tweaking nature of stories passed on about gods and men.. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2001/what-did-the-census-at-the-time-of-the-birth-of-christ-accomplish.

  luke 2:1-6. in those days a decree went out from caesar augustus that all the world should be enrolled.

  this was the first enrollment, when quirinius was governor of syria.

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  It is intriguing how many facts religion hides from us. The WT for example give this bogus explanation when explaining Matthew 2:23:

  Prophetic. Matthew pointed out that the name Nazarene was prophetically foretold as another sign identifying Jesus Christ as the promised Messiah. He called this to the attention of his readers when he told how Joseph brought Mary and her child back from Egypt following Herod’s death. “Moreover,” Matthew wrote, “being given divine warning in a dream, he [Joseph] withdrew into the territory of Galilee, and came and dwelt in a city named Nazareth, that there might be fulfilled what was spoken through the prophets: ‘He will be called a Nazarene.’”—Mt 2:19-23.

  Nazareth is not mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures. Some suppose Matthew had reference to some lost prophetic book or some unwritten tradition, but his expression, “spoken through the prophets,” is used by writers of the Christian Greek Scriptures only in reference to the same canonical collection of the Hebrew Scriptures we have today. The key to understanding, apparently, lies in equating Nazarene with ne′tser, mentioned above as meaning sprout.

  With this in mind, it is evident that Matthew was referring to what Isaiah (11:1) had said concerning Messiah: “There must go forth a twig out of the stump of Jesse; and out of his roots a sprout [we·ne′tser] will be fruitful.” Another Hebrew word, tse′mach, also means sprout and was used by other prophets when referring to the Messiah. Matthew used the plural, saying that “prophets” had mentioned this coming “Sprout.” For example, Jeremiah wrote about the “righteous sprout” as an offshoot of David. (Jer 23:5; 33:15) Zechariah describes a king-priest “whose name is Sprout,” a prophecy that could apply only to Jesus the Nazarene, the great spiritual Temple-builder.—Zec 3:8; 6:12, 13.
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  Luke's Account Of The Roman Census And Jesus Birthday Conflict

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think this website on the subject helps one see the tweaking nature of stories passed on about gods and men.. http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2001/what-did-the-census-at-the-time-of-the-birth-of-christ-accomplish.

  luke 2:1-6. in those days a decree went out from caesar augustus that all the world should be enrolled.

  this was the first enrollment, when quirinius was governor of syria.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oli0DTmPmGU
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  "What exactly is his world view? from Cofty I see nothing but, anti-life, anti-love, anti-hope"

  by cofty in

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  villagegirl's question on another thread was probably supposed to be rhetorical but i want to respond to it.. many times people of faith express similar misapprehensions about those who don't share their views on eternity.. i want this to be a positive thread.

  an opportunity for atheists to share what moves and inspires them.

  what do you live for, what gives your life meaning and purpose?

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  I am in the beginning of my journey and the sight of freedom I see myself enjoying is glorious. Knowing I’m made of star dust makes me appreciate that a star had to die for me to live and therefore my atoms need to be passed on so the cycle of life may continue its course.

  I enjoy every minute I have with my family, although they are still tied to religious superstitions and mythologies, I do hope that one day I can help them see the light. In the meantime I show my family true love and the support they need from a husband and dad. I don’t allow others to think for me anymore and I use my freedom responsibly.

  Learning TTATT has been the best thing ever!
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  The Bible: Most flawed document ever?

  by bboyneko in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i came across this essay by joseph c. sommer:.

  contradictions.

  the fact that the bible contains contradictions is one reason why humanists consider the book to be an unreliable authority.

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  Nice find BU2B! Marking for later reading...
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  burning satanic items

  by fakesmile in

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  2. friends

  true story.

  so was cleaning out an old storage unit on family property.

  i happened upon an old audio casette case full of audio watchtowers.

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  you forgot to mention the good feeling afterwards
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  Ran into a witnessing table at the park today

  by confusedandalone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just got in from my daughters homecoming(she is a cheerleader and these guys make a huge deal out of this stuff).

  they play 3 football games of various age groups.

  it starts at 8 in the morning and just ended at 1:30. i just got in the house literally 5 minutes ago and i had to share.

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  Everyone is just jealous because back in day this would be out of the question. Now the new age of JW's have been streamlined.
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  How I recently handled JWs at my door

  by Christian guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jws stopped by my house a couple weeks ago on a saturday morning.

  i knew that with others most likely waiting for them out in the car they probably did not then have much time to engage in any serious conversation.

  so i let them talk while i feigned interest in what they had to say.

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  Loved it! I will use this with my wife. Welcome Christian guy
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  Take care sbf! One thing is certain, he can go back physically but his mind will never go back to sleep while in dub land. In my case I know that in the near future I will be forced to make a decision, and I know the hill is steep and it will get hard... but I can taste the freedom and is great.

  SBF I hope you can find the inner peace you seek.

  Peace,

  Suavojr
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  January 2014 Awake

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anyone know why it is taking so long for it to be put on on jw.org?

  it supposedly highlights the jw.org website so is there a special campaign or something?

  i would have expected it to be there already since both editions of the watchtower have been there for a while..

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  Nice! Thanks for the explanation