Kids are great!
Tom
Kids are great!
Tom
lately, i've been toying with idea of visiting the local cong.
to find out wassup in the local territory.
the trouble is, some might recognize me.
Lately, I've been toying with idea of visiting the local cong. to find out wassup in the local territory. The trouble is, some might recognize me. I could just attend the ministry school. They usually talk about local problems there. Maybe this could add to my understanding of what the local JW's are thinking these days. Watcha think?
Tom
i stumbled across this website today.
i assumed it was all card carrying jws.
i've been dfed for almost 4 years now and am happy to be out.
Greetings, Peter.
Hal is a troller, I believe. A "let's see what we can get away with" attitude. Not a real conversationalist, just a bottom feeder. He probably posts with different names also.
I also heard that Henschel was dead. I don't know for sure.
Tom
i went to the library yesterday and was looking in the religious section and came across none other than the blue creation book.
i read this book when i was 15, and thought it was great!
it was my introduction to dubs.
Zep,
I read "Thirty Years a Watchtower Slave." It's very good. Probably the first "tell all" book about JW's. Schnell talks about the early days, and some of the strong arm tactics the WTS used.
Tom
...for the average jw as i see them out in door to door work.
i shake my head and think; they just don't know.
or maybe they do, but are in a dilemma similar to thousands if not millions right now.
Waiting,
What started out as a tongue-in-cheek comment I made turned into a pretty good conversation. You slapped me around, and got me thinking about how things were and still are in many cases. I appreciate the wake up call.
I, too, am self- employed, as well as my wife. It's been years since I had to deal with the day to day problems of hiring and firing.
Tom
when i was a jw, i thought i knew enough about the religion to try to convince others to join.
in reality, i only knew what other jw's and the wts told me.
i admit to being gullible and naive when at a young age i wasn't sure what i wanted out of life.
You guys are so right.
The thing that disappoints me about the conversations I see between JW's and x's, is the JW's ability to side step the facts, or to rationalize them via WTS mentality. I see it constantly on H2O especially, even when presented with loads of information. The JW is programmed to dismiss any and all info contrary to what the WTS teaches. I remember closing my mind to opposing views when I was doing street work as a JW. I was so sure I had the "truth", that I was willing to dismiss other info without researching it. The WTS's warning about reading other info was stuck in my head. It doesn't matter the source, the real facts, whatever. It boils down to mind control.
I remember many other xJW's saying that they felt like they were taking a major plunge to start researching the WTS. I felt the same. All the years of WTS rhetoric pounded into our heads. Mind control. Cult.
Tom
when i was a jw, i thought i knew enough about the religion to try to convince others to join.
in reality, i only knew what other jw's and the wts told me.
i admit to being gullible and naive when at a young age i wasn't sure what i wanted out of life.
When I was a JW, I thought I knew enough about the religion to try to convince others to join. In reality, I only knew what other JW's and the WTS told me. I admit to being gullible and naive when at a young age I wasn't sure what I wanted out of life. Why didn't I do the research? I was too eager to accept what seemed like the most genuine religion I ran into. I was never(before I was baptized)confronted by opposers of the WTS. Still, it was my decision, and I accept responsibility for my decision. Others, growing up as JW's are in a different situation. It might seem normal to some JW's, growing up in the cult. How normal is it though, to assume that your small circle of believers are head and shoulders above the rest of society in terms of religious beliefs?
I would encourage anyone to research any strong personal belief, no matter what it is. It could save you from many wasted years. Determining the validity of your belief system could put you on a track to a more useful, happy and genuinely productive life. It could SAVE your life. Be honest about your beliefs.
Tom
Edited by - TR on 25 October 2000 20:32:35
first off, we want to thank everyone who emailed us in response to our last post.
yes, your concerns are being addressed, and what went on at the annual meeting was only the first step.. h2o and many similar sites were thrown in disarray as they were forced to admit that they were blindsided by the reorganization announcement.. so much for their claims of higher ups in the reform movement, funneling them inside information.
the truth is that reform consists of isolated embittered individuals with an ax to grind.
Hal,
I apologize for being rude in my last post. I hope you can do the same.
Tom
first off, we want to thank everyone who emailed us in response to our last post.
yes, your concerns are being addressed, and what went on at the annual meeting was only the first step.. h2o and many similar sites were thrown in disarray as they were forced to admit that they were blindsided by the reorganization announcement.. so much for their claims of higher ups in the reform movement, funneling them inside information.
the truth is that reform consists of isolated embittered individuals with an ax to grind.
Hal(halitosis?),
The bad smell emitted from your mouth justifies your name. Climb out of your box made out of WT rags and join the thinking class.
Tom
...for the average jw as i see them out in door to door work.
i shake my head and think; they just don't know.
or maybe they do, but are in a dilemma similar to thousands if not millions right now.
7 'o 10,
Your post was obviously a plagerized version of mine and others. DUH!
I noticed you didn't include the part about the success of my family. Why is that?
A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Do some research on the WTS.
Tom
Edited by - TR on 25 October 2000 17:37:50