NO HE ISNT!
Now sing after me...
"Hail the apostasy ever increasing,
massive dissension is now taking place....."
it seems that this question is used by elder to trap us and close their minds(the jw elder) to thinking.
if you answer no they wrap up a jc in short order.
i was wondering if any have tried to use a more pointed question to actually get them to think themselves.
NO HE ISNT!
Now sing after me...
"Hail the apostasy ever increasing,
massive dissension is now taking place....."
hi guys.
i'm interested in knowing whether any other faders out there ever find themselves feeling a little paranoid about establishing contact with other faders or former jws, just in case the unthinkable happens and things turn sour.. personally, i'm now fairly comfortable with the idea that i will be disfellowshipped or disassociated within the next year or so.
i see it as inevitable, and an essential transition in order to do what i want to do with my life.
yes, eventually i see myself officially DA'd, but Im being ultra cautious with some people because like you I want it to happen according to MY timetable, when its best for my family. It would be nice to be at that stage in time for my youngest child starting kindy or school (2/3 years). But it has to be once my husband is ready too. Im waiting for him.
although we all know that there are many disadvantages of being brought up ( vomit sound) in the truth.
but would you say that leaving has maybe caused you to do some things that you would not have normally have done in life ?
for me personally now i have lots of free time ( mine all mine, evil laugh) i have almost finished my first novel.
watched the twilight movies.... and enjoying the "American Horror Story - Assylum" on tv. Not scared of demunz!
plan to focus on my kids education and development in sports or whatever they want. Also to go back to school/work myself once my youngest is in kindergarten. spend time/energy/money on home improvements without feeling guilty. Pursuing music and writing, down the track when my kids are older...
so many options, now that Im not focused on field circus until the paradise!
okay so i like dramatic lashes.
and my grandma told me all the women are complaining about them being a distraction.
well all i have to say to them is "kiss my ass".
i think satanus is a gaga fan....
ive never worn false lashes, bought some once but couldnt get the knack of putting them on!
am thinking of going to makeup counter (MAC if possible!) to get them applied professionally for a night out with my hubby in a couple of weeks. rather exciting...
Have sent you another pm brainmelt x love sky x
hi everyone, its been over 4 months and i have not heard a response from the elders.
i called one of them a few weeks back.
he said they sent it to bethel and haven't heard back yet.
That's a great letter, how cruel of them to leave u hanging. But u have been so brave, and who know what good it might do. Consider sending copies to "brothers and sisters" u think might have an open mind? If you're going to be treated as an "apostate" why not make it worthwhile? Just a thought... But of course my situation is different to yours, I don't have the same wisdom as many here, including yourself.
im so sorry to hear about the loss of your beloved wife and family. There are no words...
Love and hugs,
Sky x
Hi brain melt, I've sent u a pm - we have a login common my sister! To open your messages, click on the little envelope icon at top right of screen, u will probably get an error msg, just click again and u should get it
Love sky x
my husband and i have two small children, one of which recently became an unbaptised publisher and joined the school.
my husband is an elder and firmly committed to our family and loves me deeply as i love him.
i would like to find a way for all of us to fade away as we have family in the organization that we do not want to lose.
Dear dear sister, i dont even know you but I want to give you a hug
I too have 2 small children and a husband (albeit not an elder, but a former MS) still in as well as most of both our families. Take it slow and gentle with the husband, you might get somewhere. But respect free choice.
I told my husband my doubts and that I can no longer in good conscience share in the ministry. I continue to go to some meetings with him and the kids, and allow him to teach them "the truth", but I do not instigate anything. If he brings things up, I am honest.
f things carry on, as my children grow older and perhaps are considering baptism, I will give them more information from "the other side" I will also not oppose them in extracurricular activities (sports outside of school etc) and I honestly dont think their Dad will either.
As others have said, there is no need to make some sudden obvious stand, take your time love. Just love your family and follow your conscience.
Love, SkyGreen
so i have another visit from the elder this week.
this time they want to speak with my wife, still a believer and myself.
i think they want to know my position about my children attending the meetings and some other things.. while preparing myself for it i though of a challenge for the elders and my wife.
If what you assume about why they want to visit (ie your opinion on your kids attending meetings) then just stick to that
When its elders, you have to assume "uber dub"
Questioning all sorts of WT doctrines and policies will do you and your family NO GOOD
If you want to keep your family together and functioning peacefully, keep your thoughts on the down low with the elders!
Lots of Love.
SkyGreen
letter from the governing body.. .
dear brothers due to our failed attempts of interrupting scripture and completely false, multiple prophecies, we as the governing body are going to implement a few new changes to god's earthly organization.. .
we are not god's earthly organization.
my goodness that brought a tear to my eye, i WISH that would happen, then myself and so many others with spouses, children and other family in while they're fading, wouldnt be going through what we are right now!