When you say the Watchtower will be obsolete, you just mean it won’t be in printed form any longer? I can’t imagine Sunday meetings not having a Watchtower study. It would make sense if it still was written, but only in online format.
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JW .org now want children's monthly allowance and create own 'donation box" ! đź—łđź’µ
by Nathan R. Koppe inthis video represents the latest specimen in a relentless stream of propaganda material targeting children,.
the “become jehovah’s friend” series first launched in 2012 with a video aimed at guilt-tripping kids into believing that plastic wizard toys are satanic.. then, another cartoon has shown caleb and sophia essentially being threatened with death if they don’t pay attention at meetings.. in lesson 19, sophia was reminded of the importance of being generous by donating her 'ice cream money'!
to the jw .org 'worldwide work'.. (https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/be-generous).
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Fifty years ago today: One quote to demolish the Watchtower
by JeffT ini did not have any connection to jw's when they published this, about two weeks before i graduated from high school.
i'm now on medicare and collecting social security.
so much for their ability to see into the future.
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LongHairGal21 hours ago
“I wonder if it will get to a point when they are crying and elders or other brothers will actually need to do cold calls in the local community at homes of faded or other JWs asking outright for donations for needy people in the congregation?”
That is exactly what I would expect the Society to encourage. They never provide any assistance or charity with all the millions they rake in from the flock. Just like all the Bethelites they sent packing, no severance or anything, they can be the local congregations burden now and they wipe their hands clean. They are just so cutthroat and heartless. This cult can’t end soon enough.
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New convention video
by Olig inso i've just seen a snippet of a new convention release, and it's obviously a reenactment (bloody poor one - look at the state of the disposable beards lol!
) of bible times.. the chap speaking is heard saying if your family members turn away and serve false gods, you should kill them!.
https://twitter.com/jfnilsen/status/1133000862719270912?s=09.
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BourneIdentity
Those fat fuckin GB members need to be locked up in an insane asylum. They are mentally diseased!
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For any that still believe in God and Jesus, what is your reasoning on this matter?
by BourneIdentity inin the old testament, god was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.
we’re told jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities.
why in the new testament does jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people?
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In the Old Testament, God was always full of anger and jealousy resulting in the murder of millions of people.
We’re told Jesus perfectly reflects his fathers qualities. Why in the New Testament does Jesus show no hint of anger and jealousy and wanting to kill people? His ministry was all about compassion and forgiveness.
Does this mean Jehovah realized he made mistakes in the past and when Jesus came to earth, he wanted people see how he changed and thinks and feels now towards humans? That whole issue has made me pause a lot and think WTF?
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Just when you thought they couldn’t stoop any lower begging for money
by BourneIdentity inhttps://www.jw.borg/en/bible-teachings/children/become-jehovahs-friend/activities/help-others/.
remove the b after jw.borg.
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https://www.jw.borg/en/bible-teachings/children/become-jehovahs-friend/activities/help-others/
Remove the b after jw.borg.
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The Great KH Sell-Off
by snugglebunny inre the great kh sell off: could a congregation refuse to sign over their kingdom hall to the society?
i seem to recall - many years ago admittedly - that my home kh had been paid for by voluntary donations, no loans being involved.
i have no idea what the situation is now, but i do recall that many jw's contributed a set amount every month to the kh fund until there was enough money in the pot to build one.
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I recall reading about one congregation in California, I think it was the Menlo Park congregation. The Society wanted to sell it and take all their funds from the account. If memory serves me right, there might have been close to $750,000 in their account. The elders put up a fight and they lost. All the elders were removed or maybe they were DFed.
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Jehovah’s Witness who posted criticisms on Reddit can remain anonymous, judge rules
by Tameria2001 inhttps://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/jehovah-s-witness-who-posted-criticisms-on-13855357.php.
i had this article pop up about the darksilver case.
it says a federal magistrate in san francisco has now ruled that darksilver can remain anonymous but then it says except for identification to lawyers for the religion’s watchtower publication.
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Darkspilvers only hope is his family wakes up and leaves as well. There is a huge awakening going on and I believe more and more JWs are seeing through all the bullshit. The child abuse cases are showing up on mainstream news sources and the pleas for money are happening more and more often, they have no shame. Not to mention the JW.org logo plastered everywhere. All the titles in the Organization, has a total corporate feel to it, nothing resembling a religion.
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Jehovah’s Witness who posted criticisms on Reddit can remain anonymous, judge rules
by Tameria2001 inhttps://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/jehovah-s-witness-who-posted-criticisms-on-13855357.php.
i had this article pop up about the darksilver case.
it says a federal magistrate in san francisco has now ruled that darksilver can remain anonymous but then it says except for identification to lawyers for the religion’s watchtower publication.
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How will they obtain his identity? A lot create fake email accounts and all Reddit asks for is an email address and username when joining.
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Hypocrisy
by BourneIdentity inhypocrisy in the org.
just off the top of my head, i came up with a bunch of examples showing the jw's hypocrisy.
any others to add?.
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Hypocrisy in the Org
Just off the top of my head, I came up with a bunch of examples showing the JW's hypocrisy. Any others to add?
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JW talking to another JW: Did you hear about all the pedophilia going on in the Catholic church? How perverted, how do they still stay as members in such a sick false religion! It is so painfully obvious something is wrong and not being directed by God.
JW's response when it happens in the Org: That is fake news and if it's real, these are imperfect men. The Governing Body still deserves our undying devotion and loyalty to everything they command us to do! We will never leave Jehovah and his loving Organization!
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JW talking to a householder: You shouldn't be shunned by your family just because you are searching for truth and don't agree with the religion you were raised in, that isn't right!
JW's response when another JW wakes up and doesn't want to partake of the religion they were raised in: You are an apostate and must be shunned the rest of your life! How dare you say you have found out any other truth, we have the one and only truth!
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JW talking to a householder: As JWs, we don't have, or support any manmade traditions, we strictly adhere to God's Word, the Bible.
JWs wake up and realize many traditions of men are being followed that have no Scriptural support, such as Judge Rutherford's rule for no one to wear beards. You can write a letter to HQ asking about it, they will respond with pages and pages talking in circles, they don't have a Scriptural response.
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JWs talking to a householder: Yes, we have to endure persecution because Jesus said his true followers would have to endure it, so we're not surprised that people hate us. When we receive it, we rejoice because it's for righteousness sake.
JWs response to the Russia happenings: Let's flee the country and serve Jehovah somewhere else where we won't be persecuted! We need to pray to Jehovah to reverse Dennis Christensen's prison sentence! We need to write Putin millions of letters that this isn't right, we have been wronged and are being persecuted for our faith!
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JWs talking to a householder: As Jehovah's clean people, we stay away from anything that has pagan origins.
Householder: I noticed you have a wedding ring on, that is of pagan origin.
JW's response: Well, that is a personal choice, a conscience matter that we have to decide for on our own.
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JW's talking to a householder: As Jehovah's humble people, we never engage in anything that brings honor to ourselves, it's about praising Jehovah and his great name. For example, we never celebrate our birthday's, give recognition to our mother or father on those holidays, because that would be wrong.
Householder: But don't you have gradution parties, isn't that sort of bringing honor to yourself in the forms of receiving money and gifts for a worldly accomplishment you achieved?
JW's response: Well, that is a personal choice, a conscience matter that we have to decide for on our own.
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JW's talking among themselves in the 1980s:
JW 1: Wow, I'm getting really exhausted from going to meetings Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday, it's just too much!
JW 2: Now JW 1, you have a very bad attitude, these are loving provisions from Jehovah, you need to go, we NEED these meetings, every single on of them!
JW's conversation after the Slave gets rid of 1 meeting during the week:
JW 1: I am so glad they got rid of that meeting, I told you I was getting burnt out, I'm sure millions of others felt the same way I did.
JW 2: Stop being prideful and running ahead of Jehovah's chariot. Now that the Slave has cancelled that one meeting, yes, now I agree maybe things were getting a little challenging for the brotherhood to handle it all.
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JW's proclaim: We don't do any of that nonsense Christendom does like passing around collection plates or tithing, they are just trying to make money off of their people.
JW's in reality: Use peer pressure at meetings to pass resolutions and force people to give more. Easy to go unnoticed by mostly everyone not putting money on a plate, but keeping your hand down while everyone else is raising there's, everyone notices. Also, they have printed they would like anyone who is interested in giving to them, to donate cash, savings, retirement, 401k, stocks, bonds, homes, land, jewelry, in essence, any asset of any value.
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JW's: Disfellowshipping and not talking to someone is such a loving provision, it's tough love and helps them come to their senses.
JW's to the rank and file in their publications: Under no conditions, would we want to use the "silent treatment" in our marriages or our friendships with a brother or sister. This is so detrimental to our relationships. It affects ones mental well being and is so unloving and cruel.
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JW's reality: Our leadership do not make any money for what they do, they aren't like Christendom's priests that get a salary. They are working for Jehovah and giving up everything in their lives.
Reality: The Governing Body live a luxurious life, they never have to stress about paying rent or a mortgage, have very nice amenites in Warwick that includes a gym, tennis courts, basketball courts (They also don't show you their living quarters when you tour Warwick), have others do their laundry, have others prepare all their meals, no cars to work on and maintain, fly all over the world on someone elses dime giving talks, treated as celebrities by millions of JWs. You can see this from the midweek meeting this week, the video they played called Love in Action. Sanderson flew to one of the areas ravaged by a natural disaster and you can observe people adore those men. You tell me, are they that different from Christendom's leaders? They aren't driving around in fancy sports cars or living in mansions, but any of us could only dream of having all our needs and wants cared for as they do.
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JW’s reality: People that have been disfellowshipped or disassociated return to the Organization because they love Jehovah and miss him dearly.
Reality: They return because they miss their family and friends dearly. A relationship with Jehovah can still be maintained without the Organization involved, people imprisoned are living proof, or the millions over the years that have disassociated. The Organization even subtly admits people come back for their loved ones in their own videos and examples. Disfellowshipped ones admit if their family or friends would have spoke with them “even just a little bit”, it would have been enough for them to stay away from coming back to the Organization. That sums up why people return, straight from the horse’s mouth.
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JW Relief Ministry - Express your appreciation
by stumbledbyothers intoday, the weekly meeting https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-meeting-workbook/may-2019-mwb/meeting-schedule-may13-19/our-relief-ministry/.
fyi---had a part about the relief ministry to show what "jehovah" is accomplishing through his organization to help the brothers and sisters abroad to the praise of "jehovah's" name.
even the governing body representation is there for spiritual support.. after this encouraging part, the elders put to the congregation a resolution to send a one time $10,000 to the branch for relief work.
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BourneIdentity
What the JDub leadership is playin’ this week.