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  EXCELLENT F.B Post re: latest Borg Mind Control etc

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  from william.

  h. bowen on facebook :.

  alienation and garbage the new message of jehovah’s witnesses.

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  LOAF 1: This describes the person who sins against the spirit and commits unforgivable sins and become stained with toxic oil. You are beyond repair therefore Jehovah WILL throw you into the trash can now to save you for final destruction at Armageddon.

  What is considered unforgivable sin? Someone who sins against the ‘Holy Spirit’; See W07 7/15 p.20 under the heading “Have You Sinned Against the Holy Spirit?” it states: “an apostate who has rejected spiritual light..”

  
  

  
  

  · So if you reject the GB as God’s only true word on earth you are considered trash to be discarded and not worth saving.

  
  

  The JWs won't see the above as being in the same LIGHT with the below

  
  

  So when the early Protestant, Reformational denominations Rusell and his cohorts reject the PAPAL as God's only true word on earth. The PAPAL considered them as TRASH to be discarded and not worth saving.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  EXCELLENT F.B Post re: latest Borg Mind Control etc

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  from william.

  h. bowen on facebook :.

  alienation and garbage the new message of jehovah’s witnesses.

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  The Jwbroadcast under scrutiny here is it of Feb 2021 or Feb 2020? I don't have a clue yet.
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  If The Jehovah's Witnesses Stole Your Past...Don't Let Them Steal Your Future!

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, many here have lost many years of life due to being infected by this cult like religion.

  for many it is very hard to let go of that life and those wasted years.. of course people need time to heal and this web site is a great place to do that, swap war stories and commiserate.. i was in for over 50 years.

  so of course it will be with me for the rest of my life.

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  We normally view with repugnance persons who induce others of limited resources to invest in ventures based purely on speculative grounds and which result in devastating financial loss. But there are things even more important, more valuable, and certainly more irreplaceable than money. Our time—the hours, days, months and years it involves—is the “currency” of life itself. Those resources are limited. We would perhaps do well to realize that, even if we live to pass 80 years of age, at birth we only had a fund of about 30,000 days at our disposal At 40, half those 30,000 days are already spent; by the time we are 50, only 11,000 days are still in the fund; at 60, about 7,000 days, and our life “bank account” dwindles dramatically thereafter.

  By the same token, while we may be grateful for the thoughts, experience and relative wisdom of others, we can never afford to allow anyone to assume control of our time, in effect dictating the use of the limited funds of our life. We may have done this in the past, and the natural tendency is to resist acknowledging that in doing so we have made a poor investment. To recognize and admit to oneself that years, even decades, have been spent in pursuing an illusionary path is painful. The pain of even contemplating that possibility maybe so strong that we prefer to refuse to consider it, to shut out the hard facts and continue on as we have been doing. But we cannot salvage the investment by “pouring good money after bad.”

  ISoCF by Ray Franz........ page 628

  We got to move on.
  
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  Are Jehovah Witness willing to end studies?

  by Maria Nieves in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2020/how-to-conduct-a-bible-study-that-leads-to-baptism-part-two/.

  i recently came across the above watchtower article which spoke about conducting bible studies which lead to baptism.

  it progressed to say that if the bible study instructor does not see growth within the student or the desire to work towards baptism, then the studies should end.

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  @ Maria Nieves

  Similar lies is seen in their words regarding baptism.

  Bible teach chapter 18 paragraphs 24 states.......that you have made a dedication to Jehovah God himself, not to a work, a cause, other humans, or an organization.

  Second baptismal question states............Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?

  If indeed Jws don't dedicate themselves to a work when a publisher says I am not interested in the field ministry work why will such be deemed INACTIVE, watched and seen as weak spiritually?

  If indeed JWs are not dedicated to other humans, what happens when a JW publisher openly go against the Governing body of JWs as well as its foot soldiers? Why will such be seen as despicable apostates negative spinners, liars misinformation generators?

  If indeed JWs are not dedicated to a cause, why will a publisher who publicly reject numerous teachings of the ORG designed for a particular cause that don't align with the scriptures get marked, reproved or disfellowshipped?

  If indeed JWs are not dedicated to the ORGANIZATION why will a JWs who decides to DISASSOCIATE gets shunned, demonized and as added in the ORGANIZED book that......... such person repudiates his Christian standing.

  One begin to wonder where is the place of CHRISTIAN STANDING in Romans 10: 10 - 13. Since leaving a religious organization equals not a Christian any longer.

  I don't know if we should REVIEW it😀😀😀 like someone always do here😀😀😀

  
  
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  Are Jehovah Witness willing to end studies?

  by Maria Nieves in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2020/how-to-conduct-a-bible-study-that-leads-to-baptism-part-two/.

  i recently came across the above watchtower article which spoke about conducting bible studies which lead to baptism.

  it progressed to say that if the bible study instructor does not see growth within the student or the desire to work towards baptism, then the studies should end.

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  @_Maria Nieves

  What is unfolding in the ORG as a whole is the ORG had become TWO FACED. A different face for those outside the ORG. Another face for those inside the ORG.

  Had those citations in the previous post made by their members, it will come under a case where the GB sees such members as SABOTAGING the ORGANIZATION and must be DISFELLOWSHIPPED.
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  Are Jehovah Witness willing to end studies?

  by Maria Nieves in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2020/how-to-conduct-a-bible-study-that-leads-to-baptism-part-two/.

  i recently came across the above watchtower article which spoke about conducting bible studies which lead to baptism.

  it progressed to say that if the bible study instructor does not see growth within the student or the desire to work towards baptism, then the studies should end.

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  To Maria Nieves.........

  January Watchtower 2020 first study article paragraphs 19

  You might begin by asking him, ‘What do you think will be your biggest challenge in becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses?’ The student might answer, ‘I do not mind studying the Bible, but I will never become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses!’ If that is his attitude after he has studied for some time, is there any point in continuing the study?

  Talk openly about Christian dedication and baptism. After all, our goal in conducting a Bible study is to help a person become a baptized disciple. Within a few months of having a regular Bible study and especially after beginning to attend meetings, the student should understand that the purpose of the Bible study is to help him to start serving Jehovah as one of His Witnesses......October 2020 Watchtower paragraph 12 study article 2

  Regularly analyze the progress that the student is making. For example, does he express his feelings for Jehovah? Does he pray to Jehovah? (Ps. 116:1, 2) Does he enjoy reading the Bible? (Ps. 119:97) Is he attending the meetings regularly? (Ps. 22:22) Has he made any needed changes in his lifestyle? (Ps. 119:112) Has he started sharing what he is learning with his family and friends? (Ps. 9:1) Most important, does he want to become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses? ...............October 2020 Watchtower paragraph 15 study article 2
  
  

  FAQS on the JW org website......

  Am I Expected to Become One of Jehovah’s Witnesses if I Study the Bible With Them?

  NO, you are not obligated in any way. Millions enjoy our Bible study program without becoming Jehovah’s Witnesses. * The purpose of the program is to show you what the Bible teaches. What you decide to do with that knowledge is up to you. We recognize that faith is a personal matter.

  They are called CHARLATANS here on this platform. Now you have a another point to agree to that.
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  Are Jehovah Witness willing to end studies?

  by Maria Nieves in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2020/how-to-conduct-a-bible-study-that-leads-to-baptism-part-two/.

  i recently came across the above watchtower article which spoke about conducting bible studies which lead to baptism.

  it progressed to say that if the bible study instructor does not see growth within the student or the desire to work towards baptism, then the studies should end.

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  The most important question is, is the Bible students willing to become a JWs? If yes, don't end. If no, END.

  All the studies from chapter 1 to whatever used as Bible study aid is of no use if the Bible students don't want to become a JW.
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  Will JWs get DFed if they are caught with old JW publications?

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was told that if a jw now gets caught reading or with old jw literature they can get dfed.

  i doubt this is true but wanted to know for sure.

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  Yes because they are all technically classified as APOSTATES MATERIALS. Stubbornly holding onto apostates ideas is a strong case for disfellowshipping.
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  QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

  here is the document .

  https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

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  Fade or DA one will decide what's best for his circumstances and situation.
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  QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

  here is the document .

  https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

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  A while back, I suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and PIMOs to preempt the elders' interference by QUITTING QUIETLY first.

  LLTR: No doubts the documents will aid the cause of leaving but it is not like the JW ORG don't know their members don't have HUMAN RIGHTS independent of the organization. An organization that sees every other human organization as being INFERIOR to theirs the reason they keep TRAMPLING on their members recklessly.

  To the bolded in the land of JWs leaving quietly was and is never an option. I was wondering after the statement "quiting quietly first", what next?

  NEVER,NEVER,NEVER SUBMIT A LETTER OF DISASSOCIATION. It gives your rights and dignity into the hands of those you despise.

  The documents we are expected to download carries freedom of thought and expression. Rub it in the of face of the JW ORG that the RIGHT they gave their members is to DISASSOCIATE. Any JW doing so is in line with those documents you posted up there.

  After all being disfellowshipped or disassociated carries same CONSEQUENCE in the land of JWs.