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Longlivetherenegades
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2021-08-S-196--Using Enjoy Life Forever! in the Ministry!
by Atlantis in2021-08-s-196--using enjoy life forever!
in the ministry.
english and spanish.
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No more Questions from MINIMUS
by was a new boy inminimus former jw, prolific poster on jwn died.. minimus.
joined 19 years ago.
started 4,139 topics.
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Longlivetherenegades
Rest Minimus, we are powerless to say you should not go to rest. We will miss your numerous updates and questions. Condolence to the family.
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The Truth about the Truth
by Iamallcool inif jw wants to know the truth about the truth, what will you talk about first?
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Longlivetherenegades
Since they agree that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. My first question will be..
1. Is their any difference or similarity between the truth in John 14 :6 and the truth the organization(WTBTS) propagate below....
No matter where we may live on earth, God’s Word continues to serve as a light to our path and a lamp to our roadway as to our conduct and beliefs. (Ps. 119:105) But Jehovah God has also provided his visible organization, his "faithful and discreet slave", made up of spirit-anointed ones, to help Christians in all nations to understand and apply properly the Bible in their lives. Unless we are in touch with this channel of communication that God is using, we will not progress along the road to life, no matter how much Bible reading we do." Watchtower 1981 Dec 1 p.27
NOTE: Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
2. Is there any difference or similarity between the truth captured in John 3:16 and the truth they(WTBTS) teach as captured below......
for Jehovah so love the WORLD in 1914 and by extension 1919 that he he provided his only VISIBLE organisation on earth that whosoever believe and trust the errors/mistakes and imperfect spiritual food (WatchTower February 2017) from the Faithful and discreet slave will not perish but survive Armageddon and gain everlasting life.......... John 3:16.
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On sky news this evening
by Fadeaway1962 inhttps://news.sky.com/story/there-was-no-reprimand-nothing-changed-survivors-criticise-jehovahs-witness-elders-for-failing-to-act-over-child-sexual-abuse-claims-12396672.
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They know they are at war and considering how what Mr David said about the media, courts and negative reports about the organisation in the report on skysports. They should know those they see as enemies are using night vision glassesto watch their every move.
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Religious groups in UK failing children over sex abuse, report says - BBC News
by ballistic inhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58420270.
this item just featured on the bbc lunchtime news today as the headline story and the piece included a reporter who singled out jehovah's witnesses for discussion from the 30 organisations covered by the report.
the news item then went on to feature an extensive interview ex elder and ex jehovah's witness writer lloyd evans..
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They know they are at war and considering how what Mr David said about the media, courts and negative reports about the organisation in the report on skysports. They should know those they see as enemies are using night vision glassesto watch their every move.
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Daughter joining JW
by gary inmy fifty year-old daughter is studying to be a jehovah witness.
i am her catholics father.
just wondering because they are not allowed to associate with worldly people.
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Longlivetherenegades
Captives of a concept comes to mind.
Did she needs to be a member of the organization WTBTS to be SAVED?
If she understands that question enough to see how irrelevant being a member of the organization really means.
Allow her to proceed.
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Personification does not prove personality
by Longlivetherenegades ininsight book page 1019 volume 2. personification does not prove personality.. this is seen in the explanation given regarding jesus using he for the holy spirit.
that the holy spirit is said to do so many things like hearing, receiving speaking does not prove that holy spirit is a personality.
on that same page proverbs 8:1-36 was cited.
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Longlivetherenegades
Insight book page 1019 volume 2
Personification does not prove personality.
This is seen in the explanation given regarding Jesus using HE for the holy spirit. That the holy spirit is said to do so many things like hearing, receiving speaking does not prove that holy spirit is a personality.
On that same page Proverbs 8:1-36 was cited. The JW believes this account is talking about Jesus in his pre-existennce despite stating under the Jesus part of the the insight book that wisdom is personified and feminine. Insight book..... Page 52 Volume 2/ page 1019 volume 2
In summary
1. Personification does not prove personality for HOLY SPIRIT
2. Personification does prove personality for Jesus Christ
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PIMO elder
by Reservations ini’m reservations, pimo elder.
i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?
any ideas?.
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@ Biahi
It will sound like Nazi Germany considering the new message from Mr David about words from APOSTATES being POISONOUS that must be rejected without tasting. The PIMO elder should watch his back. Their alertness have been raised again towards APOSTATES/ non conformist who undermine the power of the GB
The interesting thing here is recent medicinal practice is adopting use of POISONS as MEDICINES.
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PIMO elder
by Reservations ini’m reservations, pimo elder.
i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?
any ideas?.
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Longlivetherenegades
Whatever you do like others have said, no good or clean way of getting out.
Even as highly influential Raymond Franz was, he said his books are not made to get people out of the organization. It is more like, they will get out when their own time comes.
I always see THOSE wanting to leaving the ORGANIZATION as being on a LONG QUEUE. You are on the QUEUE when it gets to your turn, you will either drop the resignation letter, fade, disfellowshipped or disassociate.
Despite how close I was with a number of those within the congregation, sometimes reasoning with them both during meetings, field service, normal gatherings on some of the beliefs that call the organization being JEHOVAH'S organisation into question none ever asked me or seek clarification personally from me up till today the reason I decided to disassociate.
how do you think best to do this? Any ideas?
My advice is to watch out for the thought police(not limited to the elders, Ms but it extends to their wives, children and every other member of the congregation)
They will get you if you are not careful and in the will to get members woken up you will be brutally exited from the organization and the efforts and good standing all these years goes into the drain and get thrown under the bus. Watch your back. The Informant mechanism is always in place.
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Why wasn’t O’Donnell charged with receiving stolen goods.
by joe134cd infirstly i appreciate the work mark o’donnell does for the xjw community.
no doubt this has also been discussed numerous times before.
but with regard to those documents that were illegally stolen in that vice documentary.
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joe134cd here you are.....
the reason why the wt did not make the "complaint" for the "theft" of confidential documents, is because those documents were taken from within the database of the sectarian corporation WT, that is the answer to the Big question of why Mark O'Donnell or others were not charged. Don't forget that ex jw friends.
You can equally just copy on Google translate and you get the translation.