Trying to refute and write a rebuttal on Raymond Franz 2 books about the JW organisation.
I got into what was bigger than what I thought. I was out 2+ years after.
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Anyone have your local cong. give out papers to say what you can afford to give the cult?
by mickbobcat inback in the late 80s i can remember my local cong.
pass around a paper that had a place for head of house hold name and how much they can afford to give every month for one year.
but i remember the elders said they needed to know what they can bank on to know what they can afford to borrow to remodel ect.
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Happens with the congregation I was in while still in. It is always a sorry sad situation because everything lives and die on that paper. The congregation hardly meet up with the resolution despite deciding to pay 1/7 of even what was collated from the paper resolution
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Emotional Blackmail
by Iamallcool ini have jw relatives that is trying to make me feel bad.
i think they hope it will help me return to the borg.
not!
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Longlivetherenegades
Shaming those that live the organization is a way of punishing them.
Their Bible study this past week is all about SHAMING those who live Jehovah.
You have to understand the mindset they carry all over the place. Once they detect that you are tough and firm about your views about the organisation. It will be difficult for them to make you feel bad.
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Any recent converts?
by av23 ingreetings all,.
i'm new here, not jw, yet i'm curious if there's anyone out there who has recently converted to jehovah's witness who can give me a better understanding of what brought brought them from point a to b in terms of coming to understand jw theology as truth.
thanks in advance for all the help.. av.
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Jehovah's Witness who can give me a better understanding of what brought brought them from point A to B in terms of coming to understand JW theology as truth
Nothing else other than you being able to undergo the rigorous exercise of brainwashing by saying YES to whatever presented without doubt. Understanding their theology is based on accepting whatever they tell you even when not strategic from human point of view
Like others have said you won't want to be slave of men who will isolate you from all, I mean all by first isolating you from those they call people of the world and from their members when you get disfellowshipped.
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My 20 year anniversary
by new boy inafter being a jehovah's witness for 52 years, today marks my 20 year anniversary of being out of the borg!
i turned in my letter of disassociation on september 18th 2001. it was read to the congregation on september 19th, my wife's birthday.
of course the years have had its difficulties but it has also had many wonderful experiences and epiphanies.
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Congratulations to you.
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Are JW Masters of Deception?
by Iamallcool inwe do know that many of them are masters of deception!
can you give us some examples?
i notice that some worldly people think jw are very honest people but we know better than that!
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Yes @ BluesBrothers and don't know the huge amount of deception they keep regurgitating to look good according to their own standards
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Are JW Masters of Deception?
by Iamallcool inwe do know that many of them are masters of deception!
can you give us some examples?
i notice that some worldly people think jw are very honest people but we know better than that!
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Longlivetherenegades
For example
1. Using one mouth to say Jehovah arranged and deliberately omitted his name from the new testaments and years later....
Using the other side of the mouth to say It is Jehovah’s enemies that deliberately arranged to remove and omit the name from the new testaments.
2. Using one mouth to say Studying with Jehovah's witnesses purpose is not for you to become a member or join them them
Using the other side of the mouth to say anyone that says emphatically that he will keep studying with the Jehovah’s witnesses but will not become a Jehovah’s witnesses such study arrangements should be discontinued as it is a waste of time.
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Just saw the segment on the 4 corners documentary involving Erwin Zaklin
by joe134cd intwo observations here.
(1) i just saw a segment on the 4 corners documentary involving erwin zalkin.
the u.s lawyer involved in the law suites against watchtower.
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The update #7 shows the GB continue to beg for the TRUST of their members. The restrictions and Covid 19 idleness keeps members in front of TV screens which detailed documentary like this can be aired.
I wonder how many members would have been caught off guard when the IICSA report came out across the media houses in the UK.
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Just saw the segment on the 4 corners documentary involving Erwin Zaklin
by joe134cd intwo observations here.
(1) i just saw a segment on the 4 corners documentary involving erwin zalkin.
the u.s lawyer involved in the law suites against watchtower.
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And their update #7 will be used to hammer it into the mind and memory of members not to WATCH it.
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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Why is this other sheep and great crowd doctrine this complicated, Or is it my own view of it?
Is this statement correct "the great crowd of other sheep".
I don't think the generation of born in in year early or late 1980 could fully grasp this generation doctrine. I only discovered this manipulative doctrine when the need to leave was already at the door but as at then I had a good laugh at the meeting when Mr splane was esplaining that a toddler is within same generation with a 70 or eighty years old.