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  BREAKING NEWS: The Gospel according to Cheezus (Overlapping Slices of Cheeze)

  by jp1692 in

  1. social
  2. humour

  new light: overlapping slices of cheeze!.

  now as jesus was departing from henning's wisconsin cheese cheese store and museum, his disciples approached to show him their shiny new delivery van.

  in response he said to them: “do you not see all these things?

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  The only information needed to be added here is what year was this adverts printed on that van😀😀😀😀😀😀 to warrant 4 GENERATIONS PAST.

  An image that sends enough information to those who can catch the DRIFT.
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  Today's WT Study: "Return to Jehovah" - Lots of Elephants in the Room

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today's article prods active jws to participate in the effort to reactivate us backsliders.. unfortunately, it fails to prepare the participants to adequately address the real reasons so many have left and want nothing frtherethan to be left alone: the un and child abuse scandals, prophetic failures; dumbed-down, increasingly specious and simplistic verbiage in literature and talks, the cult of personality and unwarranted veneration of those 8 singularly unremarkable members of the gb, etc., etc..

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  Should they come ask......Is Jehovah = ORGANIZATION? Does returning to an ORGANIZATION = returning to God?

  Follow by asking HOW do they measure INACTIVITY as a Christian using the BIBLE?
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  How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

  ) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

  the organization answers: .

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  @ alanv.........As with anything JW related, you cant look deep into the subject

  Fastest way to see the veil behind the curtain called JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION is to go beyond the surface
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  How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

  ) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

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  @ Phizzy....Again, the Org wants it both ways, you are not a JW when they say so, and yet you are a few minutes later if they say so !

  That's exactly how it is
  
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  How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?

  ) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?

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  From the FAQ as captured on the website with this question (How many Jehovah's Witnesses are there worldwide?) led to this question of MINE who do the ORGANIZATION sees as a Jehovah's witness? The ORGANIZATION answers:

  1. We count as Jehovah’s Witnesses only those who are actively preaching the good news of God’s Kingdom each month(baptized publisher or unbaptized publisher)
  

  2. Do you count THOSE ASSOCIATED with your ORGANIZATION who do not preach?
  

  Although we do not include such ones in the number of Witnesses, we welcome them in our congregations.
  

  3. By contrast, we count as Jehovah’s Witnesses only those who preach to others and who report that activity, not those who merely identify themselves as Witnesses.

  What EMERGES from the three points above?

  Someone that is not reporting but a baptized member and not dead. Is that person a Jehovah's witness or NOT?

  Since the ORGANIZATION say they count only does actively preaching as Jehovah's WITNESSES, then someone that fades away is not a Jehovah's Witness despite being a BAPTIZED PUBLISHER and his baptism identify him as ONE.

  This lead into the second baptismal question

  Second baptismal question.

  Do you understand that your BAPTISM identifies you as one of JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES in ASSOCIATION WITH Jehovah’s organization?
  

  Look at the second question in that FAQ article again below....

  Do you COUNT those ASSOCIATED with your organization who do not preach?

  The answer according to the organization is......Although We DO NOT INCLUDE SUCH ONES in the NUMBER of WITNESSES,

  Do you see the usage of the word ASSOCIATED? An invitee who attends the MEMORIAL GATHERING is not a Jehovah's Witness same as a baptized publisher who do not report his activity too is not a Jehovah's Witness

  but from the second baptismal question, the following can be said....
  

  as a result of baptism many come into ASSOCIATION with the ORGANIZATION and are SEEN as now as a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS by all.

  So, what is this all about?

  1. It means despite baptism and recognizing your baptism IDENTIFIES you as a JW. You will not be counted as a JW when you fail to report and should you do so consistently the status remains the same.

  2. From the first point on that FAQ aricle, they count unbaptized publishers who actively preach as JEHOVAH'S WITNESS without baptism. In essence the second baptismal question and baptism does not count or made less important in such case.

  Who then really is a Jehovah's witness looking at the way they play with words relating to...... Who they see and count as Jehovah's witness and who they don't see and count as Jehovah's WITNESSES

  So when RETURNING to JEHOVAH as this week watchtower study article is based. Those willing to do so should be ready to RESUME their WORK as SALES MARKETER. It seems that's the ONLY BASIS for RETURNING since an unbaptized publisher is equally a Jehovah's Witness like you without baptism doing well in the SALES MARKETING business.
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  Beards are depicted as normal in heaven but not on earth

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | august 2020. study article 32. walk humbly and modestly with your god.

  jesus is depicted in the heavens.

  next to him stand some of his co-rulers.

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  1 Timothy 6: 15For, At just the right time Christ will be revealed from heaven by the blessed and only almighty God, the King of all kings and Lord of all lords. 16He alone can never die, and he lives in light so brilliant that no human can approach him. No human eye has ever seen him, nor ever will. All honor and power to him forever! Amen.

  
  

  Since JWs believe that this particular scripture is talking about JESUS CHRIST, the question is WHY and HOW can they still draw pictures and images of JESUS CHRIST in there MAGAZINES. How can you draw someone in a brilliant light not approachable. No man can see, nor ever will

  
  

  Thinking out loud anyway.

  
  

  
  
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  GB teaching - Gays and Lesbians will be resurrected as Gays and Lesbians

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the final talk of the saturday afternoon online convention is given by lett, sporting a creepy looking combover, which for some reason, looks creepier than normal.

  he talks about how those resurrected will need to come into line with a new moral code otherwise they will be destroyed.

  he uses an example of gay people having to turn away from their inclinations even though they may feel that they are perfectly acceptable.. this demonstrates that the gb feel that being gay is a taught behaviour rather than an imperfect unnatural desire, otherwise they would be growing out of that desire as they develop towards perfection, as they teach.

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  A lot of "Watchtower says" in that video. Hardly you see Bible verses quoted to support the talk from start to its finish. Lett was just saying "watchtower says" repeatedly throughout. Who noticed this?.

  None about what JEHOVAH says or Jesus says.........its all watchtower says concerning what is in the SCROLL.

  JWs cannot do greater work than what Jesus did now. That particular words of Jesus will be fulfilled in the new world.

  The Goodness have only been preached for decades not centuries at present time but in the new world it will be preached for centuries. In reality what that mean is JWS are the only one preaching the good news. The total preaching work done by the First century Christians and JWS in total amount to DECADES not CENTURIES.

  All knowing and self righteous talk written all over it.
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  So according to wt. Doctrine, If you die one day before Armageddon...

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you will be resurrected.

  but if you live one more day when armageddon starts you will die a horrible death with no chance of a resurrection.

  makes sense to me!.

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  @waton 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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  JW Stumper Questions - List You Best Here

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys.

  sooner or later we're going to get a jw knocking on our door.

  just like when we were jw's doing the knocking, it's good to have a question prepared to get them thinking about their own beliefs.

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  What a thread? JWs badmouth those who persecutes individuals who leave their formal religion to join WTBTS
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  My letter of disassociation, what do you think?

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear brothers, july 27, 2020. in 1919, the president of the watchtower society made a bold prediction, “millions now living will never die”.

  that quotation was constantly repeated by the organization till the year 2000 when they realized that everyone in attendance at that assembly, who listened to j.r. rutherford repeat those words, are dead.. that teaching has guided my life.

  statements were repeatedly made at assemblies, conventions and in print that there was no career in “this system of things” so you don’t need a job with benefits or retirement, your fulltime job is to “preach the good news”!

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  DA letter From my own view is giving you all the power. You simply LEFT on your own and there is a document attached to it. @ JJ keep your personal copy of the letter.

  Any other member that ask for reason or gossiping around for you LEAVING send him or her back to the elders to retrieve the letter they have with them and read the reasons in there.

  If the person said they refuse to hand it out, tell him or her that the letter is your letter not a letter from the GB or branch. Why are they keeping it.

  That will instigate the mind that the elders have something to hide. After all when they make there usual announcement, the reasons are not included