https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2020/how-to-conduct-a-bible-study-that-leads-to-baptism-part-two/.
i recently came across the above watchtower article which spoke about conducting bible studies which lead to baptism.
it progressed to say that if the bible study instructor does not see growth within the student or the desire to work towards baptism, then the studies should end.
@_Maria Nieves
What is unfolding in the ORG as a whole is the ORG had become TWO FACED. A different face for those outside the ORG. Another face for those inside the ORG.
Had those citations in the previous post made by their members, it will come under a case where the GB sees such members as SABOTAGING the ORGANIZATION and must be DISFELLOWSHIPPED.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2020/how-to-conduct-a-bible-study-that-leads-to-baptism-part-two/.
i recently came across the above watchtower article which spoke about conducting bible studies which lead to baptism.
it progressed to say that if the bible study instructor does not see growth within the student or the desire to work towards baptism, then the studies should end.
To Maria Nieves.........
January Watchtower 2020 first study article paragraphs 19
You might begin by asking him, ‘What do you think will be your biggest challenge in becoming one of Jehovah’s Witnesses?’ The student might answer, ‘I do not mind studying the Bible, but I will never become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses!’ If that is his attitude after he has studied for some time, is there any point in continuing the study?
Talk openly about Christian dedication and baptism. After all, our goal in conducting a Bible study is to help a person become a baptized disciple. Within a few months of having a regular Bible study and especially after beginning to attend meetings, the student should understand that the purpose of the Bible study is to help him to start serving Jehovah as one of His Witnesses......October 2020 Watchtower paragraph 12 study article 2
Regularly analyze the progress that the student is making. For example, does he express his feelings for Jehovah? Does he pray to Jehovah? (Ps. 116:1, 2) Does he enjoy reading the Bible? (Ps. 119:97) Is he attending the meetings regularly? (Ps. 22:22) Has he made any needed changes in his lifestyle? (Ps. 119:112) Has he started sharing what he is learning with his family and friends? (Ps. 9:1) Most important, does he want to become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses? ...............October 2020 Watchtower paragraph 15 study article 2
FAQS on the JW org website......
NO, you are not obligated in any way. Millions enjoy our Bible study program without becoming Jehovah’s Witnesses. * The purpose of the program is to show you what the Bible teaches. What you decide to do with that knowledge is up to you. We recognize that faith is a personal matter.
They are called CHARLATANS here on this platform. Now you have a another point to agree to that.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-october-2020/how-to-conduct-a-bible-study-that-leads-to-baptism-part-two/.
i recently came across the above watchtower article which spoke about conducting bible studies which lead to baptism.
it progressed to say that if the bible study instructor does not see growth within the student or the desire to work towards baptism, then the studies should end.
The most important question is, is the Bible students willing to become a JWs? If yes, don't end. If no, END.
All the studies from chapter 1 to whatever used as Bible study aid is of no use if the Bible students don't want to become a JW.
i was told that if a jw now gets caught reading or with old jw literature they can get dfed.
i doubt this is true but wanted to know for sure.
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Yes because they are all technically classified as APOSTATES MATERIALS. Stubbornly holding onto apostates ideas is a strong case for disfellowshipping.
a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.
here is the document .
https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.
Fade or DA one will decide what's best for his circumstances and situation.
a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.
here is the document .
https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.
A while back, I suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and PIMOs to preempt the elders' interference by QUITTING QUIETLY first.
LLTR: No doubts the documents will aid the cause of leaving but it is not like the JW ORG don't know their members don't have HUMAN RIGHTS independent of the organization. An organization that sees every other human organization as being INFERIOR to theirs the reason they keep TRAMPLING on their members recklessly.
To the bolded in the land of JWs leaving quietly was and is never an option. I was wondering after the statement "quiting quietly first", what next?
NEVER,NEVER,NEVER SUBMIT A LETTER OF DISASSOCIATION. It gives your rights and dignity into the hands of those you despise.
The documents we are expected to download carries freedom of thought and expression. Rub it in the of face of the JW ORG that the RIGHT they gave their members is to DISASSOCIATE. Any JW doing so is in line with those documents you posted up there.
After all being disfellowshipped or disassociated carries same CONSEQUENCE in the land of JWs.
this short video contains a few quotes from the wt that may help loved ones wake up a bit.
i thought it was pretty well done.
i wish the title wasn't so "in your face", but rather eased into it a bit more discreetly.
A good title for the post. The materials the organization had produced over the years is leading many into what they call APOSTASY. since their is the causative item. Definitely the producers of such publications are APOSTATE.
from the borg?.
i point to none other than cal lehman and the towerwatch ministries.
towewatch.com.. the years following the collapse of the ussr and the 1995 generation left a bad taste in my mouth for a long time.
I was inquisitive about a person's monicker on a public platform in my country. He was always going against and posting things in my view I believe was against JWs ORG. I said the way to get to this monicker is to see the idea behind his monicker. My inquisitive findings led me to the 2 books of Ray Franz because that monicker was formed using the names of those books. I had come across one of those books some years back which I waved it off as of no importance considering what I heard about the writer as being apostate
I leapt for joy saying I have a good clue where all his post and "bitterness" came from. So I tasked myself a QUEST to debunk these books before going back to DEBUNK all his post. I started with CoC which was the very same book I waved off, before I could complete the reading of CoC, I was inching to DEVOUR ISoCF I started as someone who wanted to DEBUNK, I ended as SOMEONE raging inwardly at the ORGANIZATION. The very thing the organization loves to condemn and tag others as FALSE is what they practice and do equally.
I met more than I can actually CHEW. It dawned on me that the ORGANIZATION I thought was controlled and directed by JEHOVAH was not what it really is. It was INDEED correct the concept I bought was ORGANIZATION. The comparison used by RAY regarding TRINITY and ORGANIZATION was apt. Oh I enjoyed the part where RUTHERFORD was saying the LORD said...........
some should report 50 hours Some 75 hours and blah blah and that their integrity is based on following such instructions. I said REALLY? Where did he received such instructions? I was glad I found what looks like the very genesis of reporting for FIELD SERVICE. It was pure commands of men.
I couldn't take my eyes off. This led me to many other books of ex-jws and websites. In no time I was reading reviews of Watchtower articles from this website and others. It was clear there was a lot of INSUBORDINATION and MANIPULATION going on. The veil was ripped off. In +/- two years I said my AU REVOIR.
what questions should be asked to a jehovah`s witness when confronted with them.. a jw gives his sermon.
"you" immediately ask him by what authority he has from god that you should take notice of him ,seeing their are over 40,000 different christian religions in the world who claim to represent god,.
jw.
@ wanton
How can JWs and Roman Catholic who share common denominators which is the CSA, who both claim they are the channel to God through their spokesmen
and one remains a channel to GOD(the WTBTS)?
the other remain the EMPIRE OF FALSE RELIGION(the Roman Catholic)?.....using the BINOCULARS of WTBTS
How will a JW resolve the issue up there?
what questions should be asked to a jehovah`s witness when confronted with them.. a jw gives his sermon.
"you" immediately ask him by what authority he has from god that you should take notice of him ,seeing their are over 40,000 different christian religions in the world who claim to represent god,.
jw.
JW: after his 2 minutes marketing sale
LLTR: Roman catholic claim it is the only channel to God. Do you agree?
JW: No
LLTR: The WTBTS also claim it is the only channel to God. Do you agree?
JW: Yes
LTTR: Why is it a NO for the Catholic and a Yes for the JWs when you both share a common denominator CSA.
