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  the all knowing god?

  by the dreamer dreaming in

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  dont know if this has been discussed or not...but.... it always bothered me when people claimed that god is all knowing... what exactly does that really mean or can mean?.

  after all, according to all, there was some point when only god existed and so its pretty easy to be all knowing when there is nothing to know.. but why should we assume that a being who had no one teach him and nothing to learn from could be anything but insane?.

  we should trust god, some have told me, because he made everything and therefore knows everything about what he made... sorry, but that does not follow at all.. my subconscious, apparently, seems to be able to manifest many dreams of very complex things which leaves me puzzled as to their workings not understanding them at all..... the bible shows god to be less than all knowing on many occasions, especially in genesis 18:20-21 where he is going to investigate a report that has come to him.... from where or who we are not told.... but it makes it clear he is desiring to find out if the report is accurate or not... .

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  the dreamer dreaming
  

  
  Throw your Bible away and carry on dreaming. It's as close to heaven as you'll ever be
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  A message for Rex, aka SHINING ONE!

  by nicolaou in

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  this is your response to a 16 year olds plea for help in http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/116852/1.ashx

  first you should cry out to god to demonstrate his presence to you and your situation.

  after you pray this pay very close attention to anyone who comes into your life or any event that shows god heard your cry.

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  Religion and insanity are bedfellows.

  Both distort the mind and lead their victims away from reason.
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  Goodbye and Swansongs

  by LittleToe in

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  what's with the recent spate of folks saying goodbye, or giving swansongs?.

  this is a webboard.

  people come and people go.

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  That he can be equally capable of serious debate, humorous exchange, trivia, empathetic support?

  Well said Crumpet - Very true.

  Being serious all the time of just Jehovah’s Witness bashing can get boring. It is good to see the humour in people being expressed.

  It all depends on whether we are trying to cultivate a web persona or are brave enough to just be ourselves.
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  So hot!

  by LittleToe in

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  22*c / 72*f in stornoway, this morning - enough to fry the wings off of midges!

  the beaches in the outer hebrides make it one of the best places on the planet, in good weather.

  unfortunately it isn't often we get a good spell.. how the heck am i going to survive dallas!!!

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  LittleToe

  Re: So hot!

  I thought this was a personal statement until I read the thread! I couldn't possibly comment but I expect the ladies will.

  I am on the south coast of England where it is hot and sunny with a slight breeze. It is supposed to be the hottest july day for decades but I can't say Ihave really noticed. It is just pleasant - but then I like it hot!
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  It is all how you look at it isn't it

  by troubled mind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  perspective.......example: my in laws look at the "truth" as a wonderful thing that changed their lives.

  mother in law was married at 14 to an abusive drinker she was a child having children .

  she studied and was abused by him more because of his possesiveness.

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  As they say - One man's meat is another man's poison - and all that....
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  A Case FOR Evolution?

  by pmouse in

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  and the official wts response?

  new light, silence, imperfect man or imperfect bird?.

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  Evolution is all around us.

  Cultures evolve. Religions evolve.

  Christianity has evolved until we now have hundreds of species of Christians.

  Some are advanced creatures while others are still dinosaurs.

  Just one ‘shining’ example.
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  jw farmers?

  by carla in

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  2. friends

  are there many jw farmers?

  i was wondering how they would balance all the farming chores with the life of a jw.

  harvest (real, as in crops) time they are busy all day and night!

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  Ooh arr.

  I once dated a Jehovah’s Witness farmers daughter. She worked with horses all day and had not bothered to hose herself down.

  We danced closely at the club we went to and I was reminded of country living and farmyard smells. When it came time to take her out again I said neigh.

  Pity - the old man copped it and the jerk who joined the Jehovah’s Witnesses just to marry her, inherited the farm. He is now a millionaire. I should have worn nose plugs and hung on in there!
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  Goodbye and Swansongs

  by LittleToe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what's with the recent spate of folks saying goodbye, or giving swansongs?.

  this is a webboard.

  people come and people go.

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  AW - Thanks Little Toe

  Your not so bad yourself.
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  Goodbye and Swansongs

  by LittleToe in

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  what's with the recent spate of folks saying goodbye, or giving swansongs?.

  this is a webboard.

  people come and people go.

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  Some good comments Little Toe

  I am always puzzled by people making announcements that they will leave but pop in now and then. We all do that as a matter of course as our lives and interests are in constant flux.

  I took a moment to ponder on why I post here and my conclusion was:

  I would like to think that I want to help people.

  Being here has also helped me to come to terms with the Jehovah’s Witness exodus thing and go beyond anger.

  I am also honest enough to admit that there is a degree of ego massaging involved. I had concluded that I had rid myself of ego and then realised that I was deluding myself again.

  Do illusions ever end?
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  We are all lacking in Faith!

  by The Truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  where do i begin?

  well let's see i'm 24yrs old and since i was 5 i've been taught ''the truth'' i remember going to the hall when i was a little girl with my grandmother i attended did the bible study and i learned a lot and i'm greatfull even though i'am no longer in the religion i grew up like everyone else saw and learned a lot of other things of this world none which have made me belive anything i have found myself asking lately what is happening with this world?

  why doesn't doesn't jehovah do something and stop the pain for everyone?

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  When the subject of 'faith' reared its ugly head earlier this week I said:

  'Faith and belief are nothing more than states of mind which we have placed value on. Like all states of mind they are subject to change.

  Brittle minds are shattered when belief systems collapse and this teaches us to be prepared for change and development.

  A grasp of reality requires no belief system or faith - just courageous awareness and honesty'

  I was an oak, now I’m a willow I can bend.

  There is nothing more to add.......