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  "We are all atheists ...

  by Nickolas in

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  ... about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in.

  some of us just go one god further.".

  dawkins raises a point which some, if not many, theists will dismiss as irrelevant, but i am not exactly sure why.

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  Hi there, Nickolas. I realize that these labels are not derogatory but they are not always helpful either. As humans, with the power of speech, we tend to try to reduce everything to words. This is essential on a forum like this. However some things cannot be appreciated or explained through words.

  For example, I sometimes have the most vivid lucid dreams that I watch unfold without words. They leave me with a different perspective. On waking I cannot put into words what I have experienced. The mind is capable of much more than we may realize. Though words are enormously helpful, there are times where they are not up to the job.
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  "We are all atheists ...

  by Nickolas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in.

  some of us just go one god further.".

  dawkins raises a point which some, if not many, theists will dismiss as irrelevant, but i am not exactly sure why.

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  It is unfortunate that anyone who does not pray to a personal god is often labeled an atheist. Many people have a sense that there is a pervading intelligence at work throughout the universe; that the universe is aware of itself. This is not enough to be a theist. A theist believes in a personal god that he or she can talk to.

  We each have many obvious beliefs going on in our mind but also subtle, less easily defined views. Labels are not helpful because not every thing in the universe, or our mind, can be nailed down and finalised. Nor is that a desirable aim.
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  "Religion...is the Opium of the People" - What did Marx Mean?

  by cofty in

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  when read in context karl marx was not directly attacking religion when he wrote those famous words.. .

  religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress.

  religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation.

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  Religion has brought hope and comfort to many people. At the same time it has been used to control and blackmail the 'oppressed masses.'

  Marx may well be correct in thinking that religion disguises the impoverished sate that many live in. He is suggesting that liberation from poverty and political oppression is what is required for true happiness.

  The difficulty is that one of the main benefits of religion is it promises that despite death of the body, the ego will survive. This takes away the pain of contemplating our demise. This is why the bible says, "O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?” All religions offer a similar promise.

  A political utopia coupled with prosperity cannot offer our mortal selves the hope that religion does.
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  Sorry Jehovah's Witnesses-You are not exempt from being made fun of...(and no, its not because of satan).

  by Joliette in

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  everybody gets made fun of.

  i dont care what you are, your culture, race, sexuality, or religion (the main point of this post).

  constantly 'ribbed' by my brothers and their friends growing up (i was the oldest and the only daughter).

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  Joliette It's a terrible thing to mock Jehovah or his chosen people.

  You are fortunate that two bears didn't come out of the wood and sort you out.
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  Why do you post here?

  by MrFreeze in

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  so, why do you post here?.

  do you post here because you are currently trapped in the jw's?.

  do you post here to help those currently trapped?.

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  Original I posted here to help come to terms with leaving the Tower. Nowadays, posting here adds another dimension to my life and provides an escape from other more serious interests.

  Debating, with a view to changing peoples mind, is no longer on my agenda. People can believe what the hell they want, as long as it doesn't go on my tab!
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  So me, of all people, had a religious experience

  by sabastious in

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  i was sitting in my garage, as i often do, to chill out and i actually ended up becoming angry.. so here i am, in my garage, kicking it on the stool for the drum set that is in there (i am a pianist/composer, not a drummer).

  i start to think about all the crazy stuff that transpires on this planet.

  we have all seen shows and heard stories or maybe even witnessed events that don't add up.

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  sabastious

  Take more water with it!
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  What Is the Name of Your Best Friend From School?

  by snowbird in

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  sarah ann is the name of mine.. syl.

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  When i was at school, my best friend was Jehovah. He never spoke to me and was finally expelled.
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  Apple Introduces Revolutionary New Laptop With No Keyboard

  by freetosee in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bnlbv6qyca&feature=player_embedded.

  ;-).

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  I have 10 fingers that move very fast.

  This wheel may be a hoot for hamsters and for that reason - I'm out.
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  Are you a TRUE Christian?!?

  by brotherdan in

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  i've been thinking alot over the past few days on what makes a christian a christian, and i'm coming to some different conclusions than i ever have.... the watchtower likes to use the term "true believers" or "true christians".

  i'm at a loss here lately.

  you are either an atheist or you are not.

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  For years, I kept hearing a voice in my head telling me what to do.

  I resisted for years, but you know how persistent wives can be.
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  Are you a TRUE Christian?!?

  by brotherdan in

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  i've been thinking alot over the past few days on what makes a christian a christian, and i'm coming to some different conclusions than i ever have.... the watchtower likes to use the term "true believers" or "true christians".

  i'm at a loss here lately.

  you are either an atheist or you are not.

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  BTW, some of us who aren't Christian are also not atheists.

  Understanding this is this is the beginning of wisdom. We all seek certainty - a firm position we can rely on. But the reality is that certainty just disappears.

  The quest for truth is a never ending journey. Each of us are just a small part of that journey.