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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Jammer

What evidence do we have that the book of Daniel was written in the 600s BC, and what evidence is used for a later date of composition, after the time of Antiochus Epiphanes? – Evidence for Christianity

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How To Talk About Interpretation With Jehovah's Witnesses.

by Vanderhoven7 in

this from my book: good news for jehovah's witnesses.

before we discuss any doctrinal issues, i would like to distinguish between what i believe is proper versus improper interpretive practice.... so you know what i can accept as biblical and what i can't accept.. basic guidelines for validating doctrinal claims`).

i. there must be at least one scriptural reference that can be cited for support of any doctrinal claim or position.. ii.

Jammer

Maybe before you guys pass judgment on JW'S you should familiarize yourselves with "the Glorious Church".

Over 20 Questions posed by the illustrious VDH on ONE post. That's why I refuse to discuss anything with him. Things never get anywhere because he seldom gets the answer he wants and then accuses others of NOT answering questions.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Jammer

Fisherman said,

How true. And our interpretation of the Bible and of Bible prophecy is also progressive like solving a crossword puzzle. Our algorithm is to use the Bible to interpret the Bible.

That doesn't always work. At times it does and other times it misleads people. It's also said that one cannot understand the prophecies of the New Testament until we understand them in the Old Testament. Again, at times that does make a difference, and other times it misleads them.

There are lots of things to consider when we do this. My opinion is that most Christians don't care about obtaining truth because they believe they already have it. They prefer to adhere to what they already believe than be enlightened and change their mind.

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Are You Concerned About Inflation?

by Simon in

i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.

that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?

they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.

Jammer

Fertilizer is made from natural gas. Heard on the news that farmers in the US were planting 1/3 of their normal crops because of the cost of fertilizer. One said that his cost went from $200,000 to over $1,000,000 just for fertilizer. The top producers of the major components of fertilizer include China, Russia, Canada and Morocco, with Belarus also providing a significant share of potash.

Huge US and Russian farms rely on huge amounts of chemical fertilizer. They aren't self-sustainable like in other countries. Take for example France. Their food taste better than the USA because they have much smaller farms using more natural methods, use far less chemical fertilizer, and are more apt to survive shortages of most kinds.

None of the commercially grown US super-market foods are as good as they use to be and many of the methods we use to grow them are illegal in many other countries.

Not only did 20 food processing plants burn up in the last year 1/2, serval farmers barns also burned down.

road to nowhere said 2 days ago

Jammer
And will be able to track everything you do and cut off your ability to eat and live if you dont toe the line

What is to come is way more serious and involved than we can imagine. Like Dr. Mercola said, "The last two years were a picnic compared to what's coming".

Most of the people I talk to don't want to hear it, see it, or admit it that there's a lot of sinister crap going on in the USA and the World today. The US is largely responsible for much of it including this war in Ukraine.

The world's Liberal/Socialist run Media Mob will continue deceiving the public by using intentional Catastrophic events to force the implement of policies and fulfill the goals of UN agenda 2030 and WEF's -" sustained development".

There's a huge financial collapse coming and our US Government is working hard to destroy American Capitalism, which is the only major thing in the way of the NWO and Socialism. Things like the plandemic, Ukraine War, fuel and food shortages, inflation, etc and the Green New Deal are meant to destroy America's economy and make the globalist elite more rich and put them in more control of and direction of the world. Nearly all of Biden's policies are meant to destroy America.

The next major reset buttons like 911 that's likely coming next are another intentionally released pandemic, which someday, one will get out of control. Major shortages, more unemployment, home ownership repossessions, riots, revolts, and uprisings because liberals are "not getting their way" like we see with the SCOTUS abortion issue, voter fraud, and corruption - stealing elections - that's the best way of achieving Totalitarianism. And that is the best path to globalism.

Two days ago I was outside looking at the night sky and saw a string of 12 Starlink satellites. You can't convince me these are all for non-intrusive purposes. Part of Bidens Infrastructure Deal includes - and I don't know the specifics, connecting cars to 5G where we are charges per-mile and deducted right from our account - which at that time, currency will be all digital.

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Are JWs preaching Paul's Gospel or something beyond Paul's Gospel?

by Vanderhoven7 in

paul's gospel: .

now, brothers and sisters, i want to remind you of the gospel i preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.

2 by this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word i preached to you.

Jammer

Evangelicals, Pentecostals, Calvinist, and ALL Trinitarians are very responsible for deceiving and destroying 'Christianity'. They quote the same scriptures, interpret them differently, and all of them believe they have the truth. Even to the point of condemning others in the faith. I'm sick of them bitching about everybody. So, stop the JW bitchin'.

In my opinion, people who believe they are contributing to the cause of Jesus Christ by exposing the doctrinal faults of others drives people to become an Atheist or Agnostic.

It's bad enough that we have Ken Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Benny Hinn, Todd White, Creflo Dollar, T.D. Jakes, ETC., etc.

Nobody has the truth. We are all Heretics. There are very few damnable heresies and NONE of them are found in JW'S.

Christians are 'Christianity's' worse enemy, and this forum proves it. So do the numbers from Pew and Barna prove it.

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Are JWs preaching Paul's Gospel or something beyond Paul's Gospel?

by Vanderhoven7 in

paul's gospel: .

now, brothers and sisters, i want to remind you of the gospel i preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.

2 by this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word i preached to you.

Jammer

A better name for this forum would be, "Jehovah's Witness Demonization Forum".

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Are You Concerned About Inflation?

by Simon in

i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.

that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?

they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.

Jammer

It's just a matter of time before the 'world' files bankruptcy and digital currency becomes the new normal.

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Capitol Attack Hearings

by shadowclone in

hearings are on the schedule for abc, bbc, cbs, cnn, msnbc and nbc.

not on fox "news".. will you be watching?

or maybe .

Jammer

An attempted coup that no one brought guns to?
Doesn't seem like much of an attempt ...
But the actual coup happened on election night. 2000 Mules.

I thought the same thing.

This whole thing is another intentional Pelosi political stunt. Kind of like the Clinton/Russia hoax baloney. (No need to wonder why we haven't seen Hilary in the news lately - she got caught). Three days before the riot, Trump and the Capital police Chief contacted Pelosi and requested as many as 20,000 National Guard to protect the Capital. She denied the request.

20 or so years ago there hasn't much difference between the two parties. As of late, the Republicans have moved a bit to the center. The Democrats have moved over the liberal edge and over the cliff. Everything they support is evil.

America was driven to dislike Trump for several reasons.

98% of Democrats are globalist and about 25% of Republicans are globalist.

Trump was not a Washington insider. Our illustrious - Globalist politicians - didn't want him knowing about their deceitful ways - the fraud, profiteering, and widespread corruption. America was the only thing interfering with the WEF and United Nations goals of Agenda 2021 and 2030. Trump wanted to keep America - AMERICA.

We are headed for a Socialist/Communist/Technocracy, -digital currency - digital ID...etc.

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Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Jammer

You people are a bunch of fucking fools.

540

Simple Question Re 1914

by Slidin Fast in

wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!

and the end times.

a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?

Jammer

Fisherman said,

Not spiritually. 70 marked the end of the Jewish era..... We know that 70 was a punishment upon the Jews but were the people of WW2 that you refer to “Jews” to God? So 70 was really the end.

The end of the Jewish era - if there is such a thing - didn't end with the kosmos.

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world/kosmos to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

I said earlier that there are three different words for world (and 'end') in Mathew 24 that need consideration. In verse 3,

"...and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?"

This word is 'aiōn and 'has an interesting meaning. In this context it is the time period between the first and second advent of Jesus Christ.

In verse 14 it's the word 'oikoumenē' you can hear it's pronounce here...

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g3625/kjv/tr/0-1/

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

This word is similar to 'eretz in the OT. It often implies an inhabited area, a country, region, or the whole inhabited world. This is the word that would have to be used in verse 21 to even consider the possibility 'THE END' happens in AD70. AND - the fact that the gospel is still being preached debunks an AD 70 fulfilment!

In verse 21 its the word kosmos.

"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world/kosmos to this time, no, nor ever shall be."

Kosmos indicates that this 'tribulation' cis unprecedented and comes upon the entire planet.

This word implies the entire planet including the heavens. In my view, that word debunks the idea of some sort of 'spiritual tribulation' which isn't implied in the context whatsoever. Tribulation isn't spiritual in any way.