If you know TTAT, don't waste any more precious time, that would be my advice.
gorgia
i'd like to throw something out to the exelders.. over the years since i stepped down as an elder, my dislike for the society and its ways has clearly grown.. but my love for the bible and my family and friends in the congregation has not got less.. i feel sorry that they are not mature enough to grasp the concept that you dont need the society to make god happy.. so i have been thinking ( and its just a crazy thought at the moment ) to requalify as an elder and to begin to really teach the truth.. to really challenge their thinking and take my talks to the limit without getting busted as a heretic.. whats youre thought?.
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If you know TTAT, don't waste any more precious time, that would be my advice.
gorgia
sometimes i find it hard to deal with all the different beliefs represented on jwn on all sorts of things.
it seems there are always debates going on about everything -- the existence of god, the trinity, the bible, politics... you name it.
as another year comes to a close, i thought i'd try to focus on things we share, things that draw us together.. here are several that come to mind.
This is a lovely summary of what we all have in common Ding. Thank you.
gorgia
to the faithful christians,merry christmas and happy new year.
what a great blessing we are!
is not that wonderful?
I took part in our city's Christmas Pageant this weekend & it was so much fun!!!! Pity none of my old cong members will see it on television - if they did they'd hardly admit it!
Merry Christmas/Happy Festivities everyone.
gorgia
for the first time the society (fred franz) began teaching that "babylon the great" fell in a spiritual sense in 1919. therefore if one can say anything about this so-called "watchman class" and 1919 and "babylon the great", it.
signaled a fall for ancient babylon.. .
"(ibid p.585).
Thank you Terry for a very interesting post. gorgia
hi everyone; this is my first post.
yes, a long long time ago my grandmother, freshly immigrated from post-war england to rural australia, waiting for months for her husband to follow, with only her baby for company, heard a knock at the door.
she opened it and there were two witnesses, who, after hearing how she'd just been crying in the kitchen, begging god for a friend, probably couldn't have believed their luck.
Woody22, OTtheWayOut, diana netherton, Apognophos, finallysomepride, bigmac, THE GLADIATOR, thank you for your posts!
Where would I find 'What's wrong with the boy', THE GLADIATOR?
x gorgia
i've lurked on this site for about 18 months and read with interest.
nice to be able to see that there are others who have similar feelings to me.
i'm still in but feel a bit of a phoney given the way i think about things.
Welcome Casio, well done on making your first post. I'm quite new here too, from the land of Oz.
gorgia
share with us memories of the bizarre, funny, strange, what you hated, what you miss...we all have them.
(question..why the big to do between terms- convention and assembly .
Perth Australia DC sometime in the mid '90s - one of the elders who'd just finished doing a talk went to the toilet without turning off his microphone.
the whole reason i even got dragged into this jw stuff, and we didn't just become somebody's return visit they never came back on, is because my mom claimed that the demons were talking to her.
they told her that the jws knew the truth about them, so she called the local kingdom hall.
bible study was started, and that was that.
I don't know whether demons are 'real' or not, but I remember wishing they were when I was little. All the children in my cong were obsessed with the 'demon question' ie - "All the adults say they're real - so where are they?" We used to huddle together outside the KH at night, invoking the demons - the obligatory "Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah" mantra at the ready should one materialise. Needless to say, one never did.
I also recall the taboo subject in my family of my cousin's collection of figurines; apparently they became 'demonised', paraded around about her bedroom floor and were thrown away forthwith!
My mother and I always felt the thrill of rebellion when we went op-shopping, and often wondered 'who' we were bringing home after a purchase, but nothing vaguely paranormal ever happened there either.
I was obviously a bit of an exception in my imaginative excitement though - I remember other JW children bed-wetting, having recurrent nightmares and being petrified of the dark due to all the JDub talk of demons.
My brothers both had the aforementioned symptoms; one of my brothers ended up sharing my room for years due to his absolute conviction that a demon once visisted him in his sleep and woke him up, it hovered horizontally above him - he must of been about six years old at the time. He is a grown man now and still very frightened of the thought of demons; once I had the Harry Potter movie on my television when he arrived at my house and he wouldn't come inside until I'd turned it off. My other brother from about age four believed he had a demonised owl that sat atop his bedroom curtains and would stare at him as he tried to go to sleep.
gorgia
if u don't mind saying if u r kiwi or aussie, and basic info like m/f, how long in, how long out, or if fading like me.. im female i live in aussie but born in nz fading the last few months.
know it ain't the truth, but am married with little kids and closest family and friends all in.
trying the slow fade and hoping my husband will do the same... being very gentle with him... .
Skygreen - gorgia again - I'm from Perth WA.
if u don't mind saying if u r kiwi or aussie, and basic info like m/f, how long in, how long out, or if fading like me.. im female i live in aussie but born in nz fading the last few months.
know it ain't the truth, but am married with little kids and closest family and friends all in.
trying the slow fade and hoping my husband will do the same... being very gentle with him... .
Hi Skygreen,
Like Brinjen I left in the late '90s, I was 18 & never baptised. I'm new to this site too. I hope you read all the experiences & opinions found here - its great to know you are not alone.
x gorgia