Posts by new22day

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Noah's Ark and I'm a dumbass

by new22day in

walking down memory lane today and recalled a convo with my ex about noah's ark.

(i made all the rookie mistakes when talking to my ex about jw stuff -sigh.

) i think i said something like 'if you believe in noah's ark take the cat and a mouse from the backyard for a drive around the block and let me know how it goes.

Walking down memory lane today and recalled a convo with my ex about Noah's Ark. (I made all the rookie mistakes when talking to my ex about JW stuff -sigh.) I think I said something like 'if you believe in Noah's Ark take the cat and a mouse from the backyard for a drive around the block and let me know how it goes. lol.

He told me I needed to grab a freaking education because Noah's Ark had been found and it was defintely real. Sigh - I can't believe I wasted 2 years of my life with that man. :(

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It's a miserable life --- Really?

by Lady Lee in

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i was at the check-out counter sitting in my wheelchair, listening to the customer behind me talk to the cashier.

he looks at her and says she looks tired.

she rings through one more of my purchases and she it has been a long day.

new22day

Thanks for the postive message. I was feeling blue tonight and this helped me gain perspective. Thank you.

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Watchtower Cult Shuts Down Websites To Coverup Pedophilia Letters

by Bangalore in

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watchtower cult shuts down websites to coverup pedophilia letters.. http://www.cyberwarzone.com/watchtower-cult-shuts-down-websites-coverup-pedophilia-letters.

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bangalore.

new22day

Why advise the elders to throw away anything? It is what it is, right. If there's nothing to hide, no worries. Own it.

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The problems with fighting the WTS

by return of parakeet in

over the years, many well-intentioned posters have been frustrated when they ask fellow apostates (wear the name proudly!

) to band together to let the world know how corrupt and destructive the wt cult is.

i think there are some hard facts about this particular cult that make combatting it so frustrating:.

new22day

As an non-JW I always thought the religion was really sad, but ultimately a personal choice. You wanna live that way and believe the sensational crap in your mags poor you, but ultimately your choice. Now, after (unfortunately) being involved with an exJW (now reinstated) I see it differently. Now I see the complete control, totaliltarianism, fear via shunning, subtle hate speech etc. And it's absolutely shocking and heart breaking to learn people are raised/think way. JWs have mostly flown under the radar but I don't think they will forever. And I think many of you people here who have such immense courage to question, doubt, leave and challenge the WTS are part of a change - however you do that. Living happy and free is a great example for others. Never underestimate what you do. As a lurker (lol) I've been inspired by so many of you. :)

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let's play Dear God

by Tater-T in

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dear god, if you are a god as your followers claim you to be, why do you have to operate in the constraints of spacetime?

dear god, why did you have to sacrifice yourself to yourself to save your creation that you made with flaws?.

dear god, why do you not do anything about your old men in robes raping little boys?

new22day

Dear God

As a kid, you were my invisible friend when friends were hard to find. When I was lonely I cried out to you when those feelings were too hard to share with others. When I was six you helped me find those ugly shoes, the ones I hated but my mom loved so much.

Then I grew up. I read that book you inspired, but… I didn’t see you there. And there was no place for me in that book. I was just a girl. I didn’t leave you right then, but that book and those stories meant nothing to me.

Then some bad things happened. Where were you? “You’re needed in aisle 9”, -- but you never showed up.”

I lost you and I lost myself for a while. I still don’t know what you are, or if you are, and mostly I don’t care. I ignore you. Now if I cry, I cry alone, but there are those times… when I’m alone, in nature, that I think I feel you. Not in a church, not in some scripture, but in a river or a tree, you pass by me. And in those moments I feel you. And I know then, I’m as insignificant as the leaf that falls from the tree and you owe me nothing. You gave me this life, in this world. The rest is up to me.

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New video: Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower's secret child abuse letter

by cedars in

we have decided to let the world know what happened when our websites were shut down earlier this month by means of this new video..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_9efi84qnc.

huge thanks to nugget for lending us her gorgeous voice, and also to cantleave for his cameo role as the voice of the big bad watchtower!

cedars.

new22day

I'm truly confused. What's their motivation to not report these allegations to authorities? Is it just to protect their reputation that this doesn't happen in Jehovah's religion? Why would a sex offender be considered for more priviledges - are they that short of good members??? Or do they not think child molestation is a big deal? This should go to mainstream media. Yikes.

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Do we have an update on how many NEWBIES have joined in 2012 ?

by smiddy in

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i think with every year their are more and more newbies that identify with this site , would you like to say " hi ", if you have joined in the last 12 months ?.

does anybody have a graph of the numbers of newbies who have joined in say the last 5 years ?.

i think that would be interesting.

new22day

Hi. joined a month ago and appreciate the support very much

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So if you tell a JW they were raised in a cult...

by NeverKnew in

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yeah...it was wrong.

i got upset and blurted this truth.

seems kinda screwy that telling someone a truth could be wrong.

new22day

Some things you said...

"Codependent behavior? Uh... I've got a lot more going on than him. But thanks for the advice!"

"Unfortunately for him, I'm an empty nestor with nothing to do BUT research..."

"OH, and nobody knows about me which yes, I'm insulted by..."

You're doing all this research/work (God love you!) all the while he won't even admit you exist in his life. Maybe focus less on doctrine and more on honesty? "He may be a keeper" -- a keeper if he changes his core beliefs -- how he views, friends, family, marriage/lovers, work/career, apparently the law, his views on death and the world you are a part of, and oh yeah, the meaning of life. Phew! Them some big changes. :(

You can talk doctrine for ages, fun, tiring and addictive, but doesn't his behaviour reveal the truth? You're important in this relationship too and he should not hide you from anyone if you have a future. Start with that.

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So if you tell a JW they were raised in a cult...

by NeverKnew in

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friends

yeah...it was wrong.

i got upset and blurted this truth.

seems kinda screwy that telling someone a truth could be wrong.

new22day

As a newcomer and outsider to the JW religion, I'm nervous to post and don't want to offend anyone. I'm working out my 'stuff' from my relationship with a JW. One thing that stuck for me was my father's comment (who's wise and non-judgemental) -- he said "you can't change people, you need to accept them for who they are." He was concerned about my relationship as our beliefs were so different.

I wonder if you might be putting more energy into trying to change your BF's beliefs, than accepting where the two of you are and moving forward. (I did that a bit, so no offense meant.) And while his beliefs may explain unacceptable behaviour, such as keeping you a secret, I wonder where your beliefs and values fit into this? What do YOU think is right? Based on your own values and beliefs - are you OK with this? What do you want in a life partner? How do you envision your future?

I can understand trying to save a marriage and famliy facing these issues, but you are not that far committed yet. Are you OK with marrying a fully committed JW? If you and he, are both OK with him being a JW and you never being one, as it sounds like joining is not an option for you, then fine. If not, then perhaps you're both trying to change someone. This might be starting point for your next conversation...Life is short - maybe just cut to the chase... what do you want? Do you want him out? Does he want out? Based on those answers, how do you move forward...

Peace

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So if you tell a JW they were raised in a cult...

by NeverKnew in

jw
friends

yeah...it was wrong.

i got upset and blurted this truth.

seems kinda screwy that telling someone a truth could be wrong.

new22day

Hi there, I can relate to your situation very much. After 2 years of frustration, I recently (30 days ago) ended all contact with my now ex-JW BF. I also told him I thought it was a 'cult', only difference is I did it very early on in our relationship. Sounds like you have been pretty respectful. I regret saying 'cult' as strongly as I did, only because I think it ended all reasonable conversation between he and I on this religion. He knew where I stood and was leary of talking about it with me at all. In hindsight, I wish I'd have asked more questions and tried to get him to see for himself all the inconsistencies. And had I asked questions I might have understood more about how deeply insidious these beliefs are in all aspects of a JWs life. Unfortunately, I've really been learning now, from people on this site, how messed up it is.

With all that being said, I think trying to get someone out can be a usless battle for a worldly person that's fighting alone against family and other JWs who will reinforce you as being evil. And do you really want to be married to someone who thinks you will die at Armageddon while he goes on to live in paradise? Talk about inequality - lol. I think this dynamic would damper any relationship.

It's tough. This Christmas wasn't a lot of fun being alone with all my family. Although I realized I would have been alone even if we were together since it's evil Christmas time and all, he wouldn't have joined in. We talked about this at length before.

OH, and nobody knows about me which yes, I'm insulted by...

This part is total BS! Don't be insulted, be outraged. Are you not good enough to be known? And he claims he will marry you?! I experienced that too and my anonyminity from his JW life was the final straw. It just sucks. Do you really want to be married to a man who thinks it acceptable to keep you a secret? I want a man who has some integrity and character and will stand up for me, not hide me. Such BS.

I wish you all the best with this and I hope he mans up and leaves the JWs for good, although it doesn't sound like he's anywhere near that. :(
Good luck to you.