Posts by Trotafox

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What Do You Do?

by hillary_step in

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i link to this board a couple of times a day, sometimes in the early hours and there is always a flurry of activity, often from an enclave of veterans.

i wonder, are you all in prison?

i understand the pc's are allowed in some facilities.. do you all work?

Trotafox

I'm a Corporate Slave (Er, I mean Executive Adminstrative Assistant). For 37 friggin' years. Currently, I work for an idiot.

Trot

A movie where the world's run by apes? Must be a documentary!

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Overweight JWs -- on the increase?

by Seeker in

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yes, i know, the title is a pun.

it was deliberate.. i can recall in the 1970s seeing very few overweight jws.

in fact, i used to think (in my arrogant jw manner) that this was a sign of how jws were better at self-control than worldly people.

On a serious note...Preaching, teaching, eating, and growing older will do that. Strolling door-to-door is not exactly aerobic. There can be other factors involved like depression and stress. Many people are emotional eaters. I gained 60 lbs in 11 years when I was a JW. Eating was the only thing that gave me pleasure. I recently DA'd and am using some of my new found freedom to get my health back. It will take a while to repair the physical, as well as the emotional damage.

But-t-t-t to quote my boss "We don't have problems; we have opportunities" (as I strangle him in front of God and everybody).

Trot

A movie where the world's run by apes? Must be a documentary!

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Getting busier all the time

by Simon in

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friends

in case anyone is interested in how much this site get's used, here are the 'highlights' from last week:.

over 2 million hits (this is a request for 'anything' including graphics).

over 985,000 page views (this includes the 'chat' feature which bumps it up though).

Trotafox

Simon,

Been here only a week and I'm real impressed with the Board and everyone on it. Just wanted to say THANKS.

Trot

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New Guardian Article

by Trilobite in

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here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/story/0,2763,574175,00.html

Trotafox

I got it here.

Try: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4277197,00.html

Trot

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The three reasons we leave the "Truth"

by sleepy in

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friends

seems to me there are mainly three roads most of us have taken.

1.we did something "wrong" and were disfellowshipped and after felt able to look at the society in a different light.. 2.we didn't like the "truth" and were looking for a way out.. 3.we wanted it to be the truth but were overcome by the mountain of evidence against it.. which is the most common i wonder.. also do our motives play a large part in how we deal with information criticising the org.. without a reason to act information seems useless.. for instance if a person feels he has nothing to gain by leaving the org will he read different things into the same info as us?.

i think so and that all who leave must have a reason to do so, something to gain.. this does not make their reasoning wrong or prove they we are looking for just excuse.. but is a normal way in which humans deals with information.. two humans can have the same information but if they want or desire different things they may use the information differently.. maybe thats wht so many say "where else is there to go?

Trotafox

For me it was #4 first. I was really stressed trying to keep up with everything and the Elders didn't want to hear it. Push, Push, Push. I was sick of it. I was sick of hearing the same rhetoric over and over and over again...like parrots. The guilt was horrendous. Then #3 clinched it with the Net, reading of Ray Franz's books, and the Library research. I'd been had and I was pissed...real pissed.
But I'm working on it.

Trot

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HELP

by Kophagangelos in

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friends

i need the aid!

since today the elder knows that i am in the website of apostates often.

they want to visit me.

Trotafox

Kop,
Hi, from Florida. I've been following this thread. Amazing has very good advice. I agree with TweetieBird. Stall until you can get other living quarters. Many of us have been through it and understand your trauma. Our prayers are with you. Keep in touch.

Trotafox

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Nov 15 Watchtower article regarding Hypocrisy

by chester in

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i started reading the november 15th watchtower this mroning.. you guys really have to read it.. on page 21 there is an article entitled, "how do you handle hypocrisy?".

in light of all of the things that have transpired during the last month and a half concerning all of the talk about the wt and their involvement with the united nations, i read it right away.

one of the paragraphs has a statement that reads: first, we must learn to identify hypocrites.

Trotafox

Wannahelp:

RE: 11/15/2001 WT...I'm looking right at it. Sorry, I don't have a scanner. It's not a separate article but on pg. 19, article entitled "Jehovah Is Our Refuge", under sub-title section, "No Calamity Will Befall Us", para 14:

"Anointed Christians are like alien residents living in tents apart from this system of things. (1 Peter 2:11) 'Not even a plague draws near their tent.' Whether our hope is heavenly or earthy, we are no part of the world, and we are not infected by such spiritually deadly plagues as its immorality, materialism, false religion, and worship of "the wild beast" and its "image," the United Nations. -Revelation 9:20, 21; 13:1-18; John 17:16."

The next article is entitled, "How Do You Handle Hypocrisy?", pg. 21.

Amazing

Trotafox

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Hi! Anyone posting from the South FL area?

by Cotton Tail in

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i am a disassociated jw living in south florida looking for support in my area.

does anyone have any information?

the recent events have brought back many of the nightmarish doctrines drilled into my head as a young child and i am having difficulty working through them on my own.

Trotafox

Hi, Tina:
Glad to hear you'll be visiting our illustrious city over the wonderful (grateful-to-be-celebrating) holidays! This will be my first Xmas in 11 years. Really looking forward to it. My E-mail is open if you'd like to chat.

Trotafox

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Hi! Anyone posting from the South FL area?

by Cotton Tail in

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friends

i am a disassociated jw living in south florida looking for support in my area.

does anyone have any information?

the recent events have brought back many of the nightmarish doctrines drilled into my head as a young child and i am having difficulty working through them on my own.

Trotafox

Think:
You're from the Ft. Myers area. I get over that way sometimes when my mother and I visit Capitva/Sanibel. I LOVE it over there; much better than this side (Ft. Lauderdale). If you plan on coming over to FTL, let me know. Cottontail seems to have disappeared. Hope not. She was a little tense and worried about whether she had made the right decision to DA.

Trot

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well here it goes

by Doc_jedd in

howdy all seems like you`re all a buncha good people .

i`ve been looking (lurking) @ youre sight for about 2 weeks now and i must say its good to see the things that i have been suspecting for a long time now are true.

thanks to you all i now feel perhaps im not so evil after all.

Trotafox

Doc:
Our posts crossed. You're frustrated and we understand that. It's a stressful situation. NotPerfect's advice was good from the aspect of hearing what the members are thinking about the UN thing probably. We don't hear about the reaction of the members to WTS changes (new light?) except from those that are still inside. Assume you don't have family inside. Regarding not wanting to leave your friends, I lost a friend I had for 26 years when I disassociated. It's rough but survivable. Pray for guidance and it will work out in the way that's best for you.

Trot