I remember one ministry school during which the sister performing her assigned part turned to address the audience directly as a sort of addendum at the end of her householder skit. There was a barely audible gasp from the congregation as they sucked in their communal breath in shock at the breach of JW protocol. She was fairly new and didn't know any better.
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Women can't face the audience from platform? Is this in writing?
by InterestedOne ini just read the thread about women & men waking up etc.
and saw a post saying women can't face the audience from the platform.
i thought, hmm yeah, now that i think about it, they're always looking sideways, like toward the other woman in the role-playing, or if they're being interviewed, they look toward the guy at the podium.
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My Labrador died can anyone please help me. I can't stand the pain.
by Witness 007 inmy wife recovered from depression just 14 months ago and things have been going well.....so much so that i started a buisness for her and we are two weeks into it.
my labby was ill vomiting abit of discomfort, i thought great, you ate something bad again!
the vet gave him a shot and sent us home.
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The most intense griefs I have felt in my life have come from the loss of beloved pets, in my case cats. I have one now who is aging, and I worry about the day I have to know that I will see him no more.
My sincere condolences on the loss of your dog, truly a member of the family.
As others have said, the passage of time will help.
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Getting upset with children who cannot sit through the meetings.
by life is to short inok this thought came to me the other day.
i was thinking of the co who told me that he liked to see parents spank their children for not sitting still during the meetings.. i remember how hard it was to sit through two hours when i was four or five years old.
it was like forever.. i was thinking of comparing the hours that we have been alive to how long two hours is for a child.
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@ NewChapter:
I had exactly the same thing happen to me, only it was a regular Sunday talk, not an assembly. The haughty SOB on the platform stopped his talk and said, "Would you please take that child out of here."
It was one of the most humiliating experiences of my life. We left the KH that day immediately, but unfortunately, did not stay away.
Such behavior from those 'men' in charge is so hypocritical. They refuse to provide reasonable services or facilities for young children, insisting that babies and toddlers be in attendance--then they berate them for being human and crying like babies are going to do. Shameful.
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EX-AMISH SUPPORT FROM OTHER EX-AMISH Columbia MO
by blondie inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udyutkcvwwe.
shunning from the ex-amish view is much like wt..
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Fascinating. I was born in Columbia, MO, and still have family there. It is the middle of middle America.
What's interesting to me is that these closed groups like the Amish and the JWs believe that they have a monopoly on community. They do not. It is a human impulse, and it continues in those of us who have left.
As far as vindicating their way of life, I don't see much with their simple way of living that needs vindicating. It is their authoritarian refusal to allow members to even consider any other that is the problem.
If a way of life really has merit, why is it necessary to put chains around people's minds and souls to keep them there? Same with the JWs of course, although that way of life does not have nearly as much to offer as the Amish, I think.
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AUDIO: Watchtower says No Higher Education
by kurtbethel inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kreg4kkser0.
at the 2006 district convention, long beach, california.
speaker william h miles - young people remember now your grand creator.
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Are they now quoting from their own propagandized, Watchtowerized, half-baked adaptations of Bible stories, the assembly dramas, as an authority? He ends with a long quotation from 'Paul' that is straight out of a drama script, rather than the actual words of the Bible. Seems a bit disingenuous to me. Isn't the bible good enough anymore?
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This is the freakiest thing I've ever seen
by just n from bethel inhttp://www.jwbrothers.org/videos/1684/.
title edited, per posting guidelines.
scully.
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Interesting how the image of the squatting 'brother' cleaning the scuz out of the KH toilet is immediately followed by another of JWs preaching at the door of a householder. Are the filmmakers trying to make a metonymic connection there of some sort?
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Teavana (.com). They have lovely teas in many varieties. It's tea nirvana.
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Who will struggle in 2011? The Uneducated (and those with Awake! degrees)
by truman indespite the watchtower's drumbeat of anti-higher education rhetoric, they are tragically misguiding their followers about the relationship between a college education and job prospects.
i ran across this tidbit in my internet travels:.
who will struggle in 2011http://finance.yahoo.com/news/who-will-struggle-in-usnews-1712944905.html?x=0.
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Yeah, that degree from the Awake! university looks real good on a resume. Not.
I agree that being poor CAN teach valuable lessons to those who are willing to learn. I have learned a few that way. Learning to desire less of the consumer products that lead many to a long-term ride on the debt merry-go-round can be good for the individual and maybe for the planet as well. Being frugal is a good old-fashioned value, as I see it.
The education issue, on the other hand, is about much more than simply putting oneself in a position to have a better income (although that is no small concern for families trying to get by in a depressed economy). Education is not just about acquiring job skills, but about learning to use the tools of critical thinking.
As I see it, the WT org. fears losing people’s theocratically beclouded minds to critical thinking much more than it worries about losing their bodies to well-paying jobs. Nevertheless, demanding they be uneducated and poor keeps them dependent and needy for an emotional anchor, and the WTS is happy to put one around their necks with a heavy chain.
@ Alfred: That elder you describe sounds like he will be an ex-jw soon.
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Who will struggle in 2011? The Uneducated (and those with Awake! degrees)
by truman indespite the watchtower's drumbeat of anti-higher education rhetoric, they are tragically misguiding their followers about the relationship between a college education and job prospects.
i ran across this tidbit in my internet travels:.
who will struggle in 2011http://finance.yahoo.com/news/who-will-struggle-in-usnews-1712944905.html?x=0.
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Despite the Watchtower's drumbeat of anti-higher education rhetoric, they are tragically misguiding their followers about the relationship between a college education and job prospects. I ran across this tidbit in my internet travels:
Who Will Struggle in 2011
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Who-Will-Struggle-in-usnews-1712944905.html?x=0
"The undereducated. The value of education has never been clearer. The unemployment rate for people who never graduated high school is 15 percent--depression-level joblessness. For high-school grads with no college, unemployment is 10.4 percent, and for college grads it's just 4.9 percent. Unskilled or low-skilled jobs in manufacturing, construction, and other fields will return slowly, if at all, since many of them can be outsourced to other countries where labor costs are lower. That makes education the single-biggest determinant of career success."
Such information does not mean that a motivated and talented person who lacks a college degree cannot be successful. My own son, who was raised as a JW and homeschooled by me, has worked his way up from forklift driver to a management position in his company's IT department. The WTS gets no credit for his achievement, however. He left at the end of his teens (and opened the door for my own exit). He has a quick mind and has worked very hard. And he had a boss who recognized talent and gave him a chance.
Still, most who follow the WT's plan for minimum education and subsistence employment will be struggling in 2011 and beyond. I have another son who is still a JW (and just as quick-minded as his brother). His situation is much less rosy--and, sadly, inclined to stay that way.
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Special Assembly: CO admits the grip is tightning.....
by yourmomma inwhat im about to post is the exact words from the co during the last talk of the most recent special assembly day.
even though im out i still try to keep up with what is being said just cause i find it interesting, and alot of stuff i find funny, but this stuff is starting to get scary, and i fear for my friends who are still in.
here are the exact words:.
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I just listened to the section where the speaker condemns college as worthless for getting a job. Wow! It seems to me that he is being very, sneaky about what he is saying there. He says that in 2009, only 19.7% of college grads in the U.S. “got a job.” The other 80% are, according to him, “flipping burgers.” Is that not a job? Maybe not a great one, but it is a job.
He betrays his duplicity in his own words when he throws away this quick qualification for his statistics: “in their field.” It seems he is trying to take a stat that shows many college grads not finding employment in their fields and paint all these people as completely unemployed.
Furthermore, he words his diatribe in such a way that it seems to apply to ALL college graduates in the U.S. in 2009, not just those who graduated that year. And where is his evidence for the mass hiring of college graduates by MacDonald’s and Burger King to flip their burgers? The whole speech is a mass of deceitful rhetoric full of logical fallacies and misinformation.
As for me, I am a person who graduated with a BA in 2009, and I am employed in my field—part time, but that is because I am in graduate school working on my master’s degree. When I finish it, I expect to be able to find the level of work I want in my field. And I am an English major.