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Circuit Overseer who gave talk at Twickenham is DIsfellowshipped

by usualusername in

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evening.

i have it from 1st hand (or second) that a circuit overseer who gave a talk at twickenham in august 2013 has been disfellowshipped.. .

my dilemma?

gingerbread

JW's get disfellowshipped every week in congregations around the world.

So do Elders and (gasp!!!) even "representatives of the Branch". I know a dozen personally in my lifetime who were C.O.'s, city overseers, P.O.'s, COBE's and head honchos on RBC's who were bounced out - because they couldn't keep their hands to themselves or were abusive to their family or members of the congregation or they were power hungry.

Big deal. They're human too - regardless of how big a suit they wear or how much 'responsibility' they shoulder.

ginger

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Spring hill fl JW kid is forced to pledge allegiance tothe flag

by DS211 in

saw this article on yahoo.

there was a little jw kid whose teacher made him stand up and salute the flag and/or say the pledge in class.

he went to the administrator and she got suspended.....my lord the jws are going to be shouting great trib over this.

gingerbread

Welcome to the 'new' conservative America - a Norman Rockwell picture of middle class, white, patriotic, religious, small town, apple pie, Santa Claus and football.

JW's kids aren't the only minority getting the 'persecution'.

They stand beside the Muslim, Hispanic, Somali, gay and lesbian kids.

ginger

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JW Preaching Work Ends in 20th Century ?

by Scorpion in

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page 12 of the january 1,1989 wt original magazine paragraph 8 ends with the statement that the apostle paul's missionary activity laid a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century.".

(a subtle prophecy that 'the end' will come by the year 2000 a.d.).

this sentence is changed in the bound volume reprint to read "a work that would be completed in our day.

gingerbread

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"Truth expiry date July 2017" -- this a Youtube joke?

by FatFreek 2005 in

i just stumbled on this youtube video of some 1 minute in length.

the originator says he found this by chance when thumbing through the jan 1, 2012 watchtower magazine.

at the bottom of the last page the statement reads, "truth expiry date july 2017".

gingerbread

Read the Watchtower backwards. Then the secret message will be revealed...

ginger

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What % of householders would have a clue about the "life saving " message JW`s have brought to their doors these past 100 years.

by smiddy in

i`m an optimist and i would say zilch .

i would bet you a million dollars ( if i had a million dollars ) that if you did a survey in the street that you live , asking the householders what is the life saving message jehovahs witnesses bring to your door on a regular basis , they would not have a clue.. and they have been preaching this message for over 100 years .

how inefective can they be .. the probable answers you would get are : they dont take blood transfusions.

gingerbread

Millions of people have never heard of Jehovah's Witnesses or the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

Billions of people have never had the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses explained to them.

It is estimated that over 350 thousand babies are born EVERY DAY. That's the current population of New Orleans...

ginger

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DID WW2 SAVE THE WATCHTOWER?

by nowwhat? in

i put together all the pieces of the russell-rutherford years, but i am trying to figure out why the the watchtower did'nt fall apart after the 1925 false prophecy.

did world war 2 scare people into thinking armegeddon is finally near?

it seems once brother knorr took over the society experienced tremendous growth.

gingerbread

Rutherford was a salesman.

Like any good salesman, he could use emotional argument to convince the unaware to buy. Rutherford also promoted himself as "President" of the WT Society and he was adored as such by the faithful.

By 1940, Knorr and Franz realized that times had changed. With a massive global war in full swing and later the fear of nuclear (Armageddon-like) destruction in the news, they capitalized on those sentiments. Knorr realized that his personality couldn't carry the Org. into the second half of the century. He changed the face of the WT ( just like the 'new' Governing Body is currently doing ).

He, Franz and the other writers became 'anonymous' and set about running the Org. like an international publishing company. I grew and grew and grew. Money flowed in by the bag loads and they invested it in real estate and the stock markets - around the world.

Their speculations payed off - big time.

ginger

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Unconfirmed 2014 Year Book Numbers - Peak Pubs, Baptized, Hrs, Reg Pio & Studies

by OwnAccord in

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i bethelite sent this email out - can't really give out names.

we wrote these figures as quickly as possible, but could not keep up 100%).

you get to check these figures out when you get your 2014 yearbook.

gingerbread

"Most are humble and poor."

That's the most depressing line from this post.

Religion has preyed upon and used (and abused) this demographic for centuries. Jehovah's Witnesses are no different. And they want you to stay that way...

ginger

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What % of householders would have a clue about the "life saving " message JW`s have brought to their doors these past 100 years.

by smiddy in

i`m an optimist and i would say zilch .

i would bet you a million dollars ( if i had a million dollars ) that if you did a survey in the street that you live , asking the householders what is the life saving message jehovahs witnesses bring to your door on a regular basis , they would not have a clue.. and they have been preaching this message for over 100 years .

how inefective can they be .. the probable answers you would get are : they dont take blood transfusions.

gingerbread

Most people on this planet don't know any Jehovah's Witnesses, don't know what they believe and could care less if they found out.

Public school is where many people have contact with JW's. Their impression of the group is about non-observance of holidays, the pending Armageddon and they go to church a lot and even preach in public. Because so many JW parents are now 'homeschooling' their kids, I see this initial contact becoming a thing of the past.

The notion that JW's are held in high esteem by the 'world' for their honesty, conviction and faith is promoted by the WT Society's writers. It's part of the delusion we're fed through the publications, talks and experiences.

ginger

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JW 'cart preaching' trend copied from the russellites

by EndofMysteries in

i guess the proper food at the right time on new ways for preaching was taken from the russellites.

years ago i remember seeing them in flea markets, etc, w/ their booth set up.

now suddenly the watchtower org is doing the same thing.

gingerbread

The Bible Students used marketing methods that were common in their day to get 'the message' out - leaflets, newpaper ads, lecture tours, etc. Later Rutherford added the 'sound' car, phonograph, radio, sandwich boards and ramped up magazine production.

Think of the newspaper boy on a street yelling 'extra, extra, read all about it!!'.

Data-Dog Google 'International Bible Students'. These are independant groups that are 'decendants' of the original Bible Students who split (or were disfellowshipped) from the WT Society when J. F. Rutherford took control.

The term "Russellites" was coined and used by those that remained loyal to Rutherford. It was used as a derogatory label. Soon after Rutherford became president of the Society, he also banned beards at Bethel. Wearing a beard implied that a man was fashioning himself to look like C.T. Russell.

Of course the beardless tradition continues today in the WT organization.

ginger

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Anyone know of any witnesses that concealed carry to meetings?

by LogCon in

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does anyone know of any witnesses, in good standing, brother or sisters, that used to conceal carry to meetings or field service?.

gingerbread

I have a good one.

We used to be with a cong. in a very rural, mountainous area in New England. One older fella that I really liked confided in me one day that he packed heat in his book bag when out in field service. He had returned this town (his hometown) about five years previous. While he was living in another part of the country he studied and became a JW.

He carried a pistol because he was scared when he was out in service. When he was a young man he was a tough guy. In fact he was a BAD guy - heavy drinker, bar fighter, messed with other men's wives, arrested more that once, gambler....

A couple of elders knew he carried but told him to keep it quiet.

ginger