Posts by gingerbread

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Have you been Invalidated?

by Londo111 in

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http://www.eqi.org/invalid.htm.

of course, being in a cult and the shunning that comes from leaving it is invalidating.. but how many times have we heard "move on" or "get over it"?

that is a prime example of invalidation.. sometimes this forum, as well as others, can be a mixed bag of validation and invalidation..

I see both sides of the argument. This site is very helpful to most by providing an open place to discuss and debate. JW.net members are VERY supportive of those who have been through the WT meat grinder (judicial process).

Bad things happen to good people. That's just a fact of life. Bad doesn't discriminate.

What matters is how we, as adults, deal with the bad in our lives - and on whom we place the blame. That is our choice. By "moving on" we accept the responsibility of our future and personal freedom.

Depressed people live in the past. Anxious people live in the future. Happy people live in the present.

ginger

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My sister is getting df'd.....

by Blttex in

just found out that my little sister is getting df'd next week.

her husband left her about a year ago got df'd and recently got a girl pregnant.

my sister has had a hard time with the whole situation as you can imagine.

gingerbread

Can you provide practical help for your sister?

Could she move in with you?

She needs some time and a neutral space to reorganize her life. This is the best opportunity for her to make some positive changes.

Your help could change her world forever.

ginger

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Survey---who is inactive, disfellowshipped/disassociated or active?

by minimus in

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i am inactive for about 10 years now..

gingerbread

Slowly and quietly became inactive beginning in 2012. We turned in our last field service report after last summer's convention. Last meeting (besides this year's Memorial) was in the fall.

ginger

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Could There Be Another Mass Exodus From This Cult?

by mrquik in

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it's happened before.

how much crap can any rational human being take before they just snap & walk away disgusted?.

gingerbread

Look (or remember) around at the next convention or assembly. The halls and auditoriums are filled with couples in their 70's and 80's - at least here in America. The great majority of these older folks came into 'the truth' during the 1960's and 70's. When their children bury these parents (with dreams of never dying) they will stop attending. The grandchildren of these older ones may be baptized as young Jehovah's Witness children - but they are mentally out or 'inactive'; going through the motions as good JW kids.

Membership is not increasing through proselytizing. The quantity of raised in/born in Jehovah's Witnesses that remain active is shrinking. It's just a matter of time.

Unless....a scandal comes to light. A scandal from within that causes many to lose their faith in the Organization. A scandal so powerful and public that the Watchtower and it's Governing Body loses it's role as mankind's source for salvation in the eyes of the current faithful.

It's just a matter of time.

ginger

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JWs in a frenzy!

by leaving_quietly in

anyone else get the distinct impression that jws are being worked up into a frenzy with all the changes and activity nowadays?

by the end of august, there will have been four campaigns inside of a year.

one last november, a memorial campaign, a convention campaign and an advertise jw.org campaign.. then there's the conventions with all the hooplah around that with all the video, and the aggrandizement of synchronized gb talks.

gingerbread

marked

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The reason the Society keeps everyone busy with "campaigns"

by stuckinarut2 in

im sure that many have had an experience where we try and keep little kids "occupied" while on a boring trip, such as a car ride or plane flight.. we come up with "games" like..."lets see how many green cars we can count", or "lets try and see who can sit still for the longest time".

"the winner gets a prize!".

obviously, until they are wise enough to cotton on, all we are doing is keeping them occupied to prevent them asking things like "are we there yet?!".

gingerbread

HA.. Guy Pierce was blatantly honest.

They don't care about people 'out there'. They care about everyone inside the Org ... and the task of keeping them inside.

Remember the two signs we always see at assemblies? "Quiet Please" and "Please Keep Moving". That pretty much sums it up!

ginger

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An increase in security at this summer's conventions??

by gingerbread in

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we've heard from friends in two separate congregations in our city that convention security will be tight.. the brothers made announcements this week and reminded everyone to be sure to wear their name badges.

those that don't may be questioned and have their belongings searched.

the same will be happen to anyone arriving during the sessions.

gingerbread

This may have been a reference to a nearby International Convention. Don't know as I'm getting this info second hand from one person who 'listened in' by phone and two other who were physically present during the service meeting. Two separate congs made this 'announcement'.

I'm meeting one for lunch today. Our conversation yesterday was short - he should provide a little more info.

ginger

I do think it is a scare tactic that will increase distrust of outsiders and inactive JW's. It does seem a contradiction to give out public invitations to people in the territory...

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An increase in security at this summer's conventions??

by gingerbread in

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we've heard from friends in two separate congregations in our city that convention security will be tight.. the brothers made announcements this week and reminded everyone to be sure to wear their name badges.

those that don't may be questioned and have their belongings searched.

the same will be happen to anyone arriving during the sessions.

gingerbread

We've heard from friends in two separate congregations in our city that convention security will be tight.

The brothers made announcements this week and reminded everyone to be sure to wear their name badges. Those that don't may be questioned and have their belongings searched. The same will be happen to anyone arriving during the sessions. The comment was made in one hall that purses and lunch boxes may be opened.

Is anyone else in the US or Canada hearing this kind of chatter?

ginger

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Live Forever on a Paradise Earth

by HeyThere in

sometimes this sounds good...but....forever?

forever in a jw idea of perfection?

does this mean no sports, or detective tv shows, or bad neighborhoods?

gingerbread

The belief of a restored paradise earth was adopted by C.T. Russell from the Adventists. This is NOT an original Jehovah's Witness doctrine.

We, as JW's, are taught that during the 1000 year reign of Christ (actually the annointed Governing Body) we will be burying those killed at Armageddon, cleaning up the entire earth and teaching the true religion to all that Jesus and his annointed 'brothers' resurrect.

During this time we will have to work our way into perfection - a task that will take 1000 years to acheive. If we fail in this task, we will be destroyed forever at the end of the 1000 year reign - and our friends and family will live on for all eternity, completely forgetting about us and enjoying life "as it was meant to be".

Sounds awesome.

ginger

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I am not joking.

by Iamallcool in

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there was a ms brother that sleeps all the time during all of the meetings for years.

he did give many service meeting parts.

his wife did not sit down with him, just one seat apart from each other so he can sleep better, that is my observation.

gingerbread

Is he in Virginia?