gingerbread
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How Much Drinking Is Too Much?
by minimus ini have seen that some say if a man has 3 beers per day or a woman has 2 glasses of wine per day, that they may have .
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How many born ins actually stay?
by lostinthought ini was wondering if anyone know sany statistics of the amount of born ins that actually stay in the orginization.
i think i have read it before on here but i can't really remember what it was.
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gingerbread
Robert - You have a plan. Excellent! My son did the exact same thing you speak of - and it works.
Have a goal and make it happen.
I still advise not to 'destroy' your family in the process. Understand where their minds are at and show them how you can be independent and happy.
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How many born ins actually stay?
by lostinthought ini was wondering if anyone know sany statistics of the amount of born ins that actually stay in the orginization.
i think i have read it before on here but i can't really remember what it was.
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gingerbread
RobertT18 - My advice is don't 'leave' your family behind. Just drift out of the WT control. If you're a 'floater', just use the same methods you've learned as a kid to get by - be good and pleasant, be non-committal. Your mom will go a bit crazy for a while but will come to accept your (non)decision. In fact, to others in the congregation, she'll make excuses or tell them she's 'washed her hands' of you.
Don't be confrontational or argumentative. Just fade...
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Flip-flops: Should we blindly obey?
by Splash injust reviewed the cd-rom to get the historical view on blind obedience.. suprisingly, the wt has had some flip-flopping ideas on this.. should we 'blindly obey'?no - w63 2/1 p. 73 par.
3 conduct "worthy of the good news".
and as we consider these commands of god, it is not just blind obedience that is required but, rather, seeking with 'our whole mind and heart' to understand and appreciate why god tells us to do this or that, or not to do a certain thing, so that we may serve him with understanding.
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gingerbread
This is why we are told to attend EVERY meeting.
Complete control of a person's thought patterns are achieved through repetition. Over time flip-flops are expected ... and actually looked forward to with great anticipation.
"What NEW light will we receive at the convention (or annual meeting) this year???"
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How many born ins actually stay?
by lostinthought ini was wondering if anyone know sany statistics of the amount of born ins that actually stay in the orginization.
i think i have read it before on here but i can't really remember what it was.
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gingerbread
The WT org is very clear that it wants young born-in JW's to commit to membership by baptism before they become teenagers. Depending on the family situation, pressure is put on parents (by their parents and others in the congregation) to get their youngsters baptized.
As these kids become adults many stay 'active'. But these folks are very different from when my generation was that age. I call them 'floaters'. They get dressed and make the meetings and are sorta regular in field service. They've learned to stay under the radar - play by the rules and keep out of judicial trouble. They know the rules. They don't know the Bible.
They believe the major WT doctrines - but the end times dogma is downplayed to a 'maybe the end will come sometime soon'. They're all into social media, the new music, hipsterisms and psudo environmental awareness. They pose as the 'cool' Witnesses with edgy clothes, iPads & video games. They have limited education and minimal earning power. They continue to depend on their parents for emotional and/or financial support. They marry each other and have babies. The cycle continues.
ginger
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Goal for new service year
by Daniel1555 inthe secretary of the congregation said in a talk, what the congregation should have as goal for the new service year: attend field service meetings!.
he explained in a sad tone, that he visited all of our 3 or 4 service groups.
and what happened at the field service meetings.
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gingerbread
I've known many "full time" pioneers that just showed up for the meeting for service and then made 'calls'. This is a common practice - supporting the meeting arrangement with your suit and tie or dress on and then running personal errands.
When CO's are visiting, they always asks for everyone to attend the mid-week meeting before service - even if you're not 'going out'.
It reinforces the structure : what's important is how you appear to others in the congregation.
ginger
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i was happy before i woke up
by losingit inidk if waking up has been good for me.
i still have almost no friends.
im still waiting to graduate this december to qualify n b certified for my job.
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gingerbread
Many JW's put on their Kingdom Hall uniform.
Field service has morphed into a social event.
Most don't believe ALL of it anymore.
We couldn't pretend (deceive ourselves) anymore and quietly stepped off the JW merry-go-round over a year ago. Boy do things look different when you examine this religion while standing with your feet firmly planted on the ground (reality).
ginger
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i was happy before i woke up
by losingit inidk if waking up has been good for me.
i still have almost no friends.
im still waiting to graduate this december to qualify n b certified for my job.
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gingerbread
It's time for you to take a break.
Your world has been turned inside out - divorce is very hard and having kids during this process makes it even more difficult. Rejecting your religion and your 'friends' during this past year complicates things even more.
Take stock of your life goals. Let yourself off the hook. Forgive yourself.
Understand that you cannot accept responsibility for things that you can't control (the outcome of a judicial meeting is one of those). Let it go.
Change the things you can - take care of yourself. Find happiness in something simple every day.
ginger
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A locally produced video for JW's - come to Tennessee!
by gingerbread inwe received this link through an email chain.
not too sure what the purpose is....it's mostly about food.. .
vimeopro.com/user4747451/tnvideo.
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gingerbread
The South is a stronghold for Jehovah's Witnesses in the US. The traditional religious and political conservatism, rural demographics and 'southern hospitality' makes for an easy transition for the locals to become Witnesses. In fact, many continue with the same intensity they had in the religious upbringings as Witnesses - it's all in and fire and brimstone (the threat of shunning and Armageddon).
Those of us who are from the south know that it's the 'group mentality' that prevails. Individualism is frowned upon. It's a "my granddaddy thought that way and my daddy thinks that way so I'll think that way" mind set that is deeply intrenched in southern culture.
The south is also thriving economically (has been for the past 30 years) so this makes the southern US very appealing to the Watchtower leadership (sorry Honesty....).
ginger
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A locally produced video for JW's - come to Tennessee!
by gingerbread inwe received this link through an email chain.
not too sure what the purpose is....it's mostly about food.. .
vimeopro.com/user4747451/tnvideo.
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gingerbread
It seems to be a locally produced promotional video - somehow directed toward Witnesses in Britian. Some of the folks in the video are long time elders and fully involved families that are almost always on convention and assembly parts.
I was wondering if any others from different parts of the US have seen similar videos...