00DAD - s till getting around to writing part 2 of my story.
My family are all JWs and I'm still living at home with my parents (I'm 23). Having to do a slow fade at the moment, but building up my support base of friends if things turn sour.
i just had to come on here and vent - i'm having a horrible day.. firstly, had to sit through a horrible public talk about obedience to the "superior authorities" (whoever they decide that is this week) - all kinds of crazy stuff taking verses in romans way out of context.. then had to sit through that hideous watchtower defending david.
one brother actually used the words "we want to follow in david's footsteps" - i was nearly ready to vomit.
just a total gloss-over.
00DAD - s till getting around to writing part 2 of my story.
My family are all JWs and I'm still living at home with my parents (I'm 23). Having to do a slow fade at the moment, but building up my support base of friends if things turn sour.
i just had to come on here and vent - i'm having a horrible day.. firstly, had to sit through a horrible public talk about obedience to the "superior authorities" (whoever they decide that is this week) - all kinds of crazy stuff taking verses in romans way out of context.. then had to sit through that hideous watchtower defending david.
one brother actually used the words "we want to follow in david's footsteps" - i was nearly ready to vomit.
just a total gloss-over.
Thanks Mouthy - that means a lot. I really don't know how much longer I can keep quiet. It's soul-destroying letting these comments slip past as it feels like I'm giving it my tacit approval. Every time I don't speak up, it's like a small part of me dies a little inside. (cliché but true)
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/?contentlanguagefilter=en&pubfilter=w&yearfilter=2012.
united nations http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm.
http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.
I was reading this thread during the Watchtower on my smartphone. You would not belive the contrast with the dubs comments - everyone seemed to have total amnesia about the bad stuff David did - he was held up as a shining example of every one of these points, and all the people who he killed and allowed to die didn't matter at all.
i just had to come on here and vent - i'm having a horrible day.. firstly, had to sit through a horrible public talk about obedience to the "superior authorities" (whoever they decide that is this week) - all kinds of crazy stuff taking verses in romans way out of context.. then had to sit through that hideous watchtower defending david.
one brother actually used the words "we want to follow in david's footsteps" - i was nearly ready to vomit.
just a total gloss-over.
I just had to come on here and vent - I'm having a horrible day.
Firstly, had to sit through a horrible public talk about obedience to the "superior authorities" (whoever they decide that is this week) - all kinds of crazy stuff taking verses in Romans way out of context.
Then had to sit through that hideous Watchtower defending David. One brother actually used the words "we want to follow in David's footsteps" - I was nearly ready to vomit. Just a total gloss-over. I wonder what those 70,000 people, or Uriah, or Uzzah or Tamar would have to say about that horrible guy.
So after the meeting I thought I need to go and chill out by myself and have a nice lunch somewhere. I pulled up to restaurant and guess who's there? Yeah - the dubs. Too late to back out - they've already seen me. So there goes my idea for nice time on my own to chill out. Could it get worse? Oh yeah.
So we're sat eating and the subject of urban myths comes up. I had to mention one that was in the public talk which the speaker quoted as "fact". Then it moves on to JW-related urban myths. The elder opposite me brings up examples of dodgy illustrations and pictures like ones in the Live Forever book - I was trying to hold back and not say anything.
Then he mentions: "Oh there was that programme on TV that said JWs now accepted blood transfusions, and JWs started ringing up bethel". And I was really biting my tongue wanting to go for him on accepting blood fractions.
It got even worse from there. I can't remember if it was the elder, or someone else who mentioned the (referring to Panorama) program about child abuse in the JWs. The elder then starts to make a defense for the policy of not reporting, "what are we supposed to do? it's nothing to do with us..." and everyone else around the table pretty much nodding in agreement.
I really wanted to say something, I really did. I cannot belive I sat and ate a meal with these people and heard that conversation - I wouldn't give them the time of day if it was up to me. I feel so horrible right now, and today is just getting worse.
what happens when 10,000 non-religious people take a survey about their sex lives including people who were raised in one religion but later left it?
well, you get a treasure trove of data thats never been analyzed before.. .
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/05/15/the-results-of-an-atheist-sex-survey/.
Damn - beaten by those Mormons again - now there's religion that knows how to make people feel guilty!
it looks like data-dog has issued his vote for tractazine as the moniker for the new half-sized wt magazines.. i had also proposed minizine as a descriptive name.. or course ragazine, half-asleep!, and half-botchtower are appropriate.. any other votes or suggestions?.
"Oops I placed two" mag
"Separate them yourself" mag
sorry if this has already been discussed.. but at the service meeting this week on jw.org it was clearly stated by our cobe that pdf's from jw.org that are emialed to interested persons count as placements!!!.
okay folks, next time you get a circular spam email, copy all the recipients and there is your contact list.
email thousands of people watchtower pdf's and watch the placements soar through the roof!!!.
Atlantis can probably count BOE letters as "booklets"
Sometimes they're nearly as thick as the new Watchtowers anyway.
they could make a lot of money with this business model.
by selling their own dedicated hardware, new e-books wt literature, selling profitable internet service through their own "safe" proxy servers that screen out all dangerous material, and the jws can show catchy pre-loaded wt sales videos to householders at the door or in their studies.. i wonder if they can get a chinese knockoff tablet computer, like the hapiad, down to $99 and still make a big profit?
it comes with wifi - and is preloaded with the wt cd , some videos and other wt junk.. how much could they sell wt approved internet for?- going through their wt proxy screening server to keep us out.. books at conventions- they will have an e-reader version of books for sale immediately- those who want print versions will have to wait- and pay more.. they can bring their wt haipad to the meetings and read the wt lesson on it, don't even have to print them out.. this could have downsides, too - like when the kids figure out how to jail break them in order to watch what they want.. i could be wrong, but i think they could sellout a limit of 1000 $99 tablet computers in one hour after they are released- they would have to have mob control to keep order at the counter.
RAID 10? What happened to trusting in Jehovah? Surely he doesn't need backups!
hey everyone!
i'm so happy that i finnally joined i just turned 17 and i have so many questions about the org.. i've been lurking around the site for months, and love reading experiences about bethel, and all the hypocricy that the wtbts spews out.. so i finally joined in and hope to make some great friends.. a little about me:.
im male, 17, and i am a born-in, so this is all i know... i was baptised at age 13 i beleive.... my gramma, and grampa and mom , and sisters and brothers, are all jw's.
Welcome - it's nice that I don't have to feel like the youngest member on the board!
good day everyone,.
i'm a born in jehovah's hostage, and am still a hostage until i can wake my family up (wishful thinking i know).
i'll formally introduce myself later.. for now i have some burning concerns about the service meeting part for the week of december 24, 2012.
I was listening out for whether someone would say the "type it into Google" mistake.
There was something even more interesting at ours though - one young brother (not baptized, but married) said he "Googled a bit of the Jeremiah book" and the jw.org site came up as a result (presumably the first one, from what he said). But hearing this situation made me think just how ripe for disaster this is.
Anyone want to start quoting the Jeremiah book on here, along with a few other "choice quotes" for others to discover?