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kepler - don't be transcribing anything by hand nowadays - there are plenty of OCR programs, even online ones. I'd even be happy to do it for you! A bit of computer muscle can help out with things like that.
Posts by 88JM
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32The 1954 Douglas Walsh Transcript--PDF!
by Atlantis inthe douglas walsh trial 1954. the watchtower under oath.
exposing the watchtower dictatorship over jehovah's witnesses.
most of the researchers here need no introduction as to the "exposing" testimony recorded within this 762 page court transcript.
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Assembly Talks... Are these assigned based on the thickness of the envelope?
by Calebs Airplane infrom talking to several fading jws over the years, it really does appear that assembly talk assignments are usually given to those pos who consistently hand over the thickest envelopes to the co at the end of his week-long visits.
if the envelope was too thin (or there was no enevelope at all), chances are that no one in that congo would get an assemby talk assighnment.
also, if the co and his wife were treated well or taken to expensive restaurants during their visit, that apparently increased the po's chances of getting an assembly talk assignment.
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suavojr - what you said it true.
I'm sure if you look back through Atlantis' BOE postings, you will find the form that is filled out by elders to grade speakers on their "ability".
It is a bit of a farce because elders all grade each other in their congregations, so elders that get along with each other grade each other highly. Of course, if you have elders that don't get along with each other, then there might be some low grades. And also, some elders have very different ideas about what makes a good speaker.
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Jehovah's Witnesses in FBI Files
by 88JM insomeone just brought this to my attention - not sure if it's a new thing or not:.
http://vault.fbi.gov/.
page 6:.
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88JM
Someone just brought this to my attention - not sure if it's a new thing or not:
Feels a bit like "tinfoil hat" stuff, but I thought I would try an interesting search:
http://vault.fbi.gov/search?SearchableText=Jehovah
I don't really have time to look through it all, but there is some interesting stuff there, seeing where the witnesses crop up in their files - mentioned in Jonestown and Waco transcripts, and other places, particularly around freedom of speech cases.
A Washington Post clipping from " Supreme Court Part 11 , page 5":
Page 6:
Another clipping from " Supreme Court Part 10 , page 59:"
From " Walter Winchell Part 18 , page 4/5"
From "Waco Main File Part 06, page 124":
From "Rosenberg Referrals Part 83, page 189:"
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2013 DC new releases - rumors ???
by obarac inthere is rumors that in this years dc nwt will be released and also new tracts.
any other rumors about new releases?.
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88JM
Rumors about a new NWT are looking possible...
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/246797/1/Bibles-out-of-stock-at-Bethel
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Bibles out of stock at Bethel?
by nochoice inour congregation is rationing regular bibles like they're gold bars.
i was told that bethel is out of stock!
anyone else hear about this?
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88JM
Where abouts are you, nochoice?
I can also verify that bibles are running low - even more so than the usual rationing that Anony Mous mentions. Our small congregation has about 3 or 4 deluxe/reference bibles on order from way back in August.
The theory proposed by our literature servant was that all bible printing is now being moved to Japan. I'm not sure how he would know though - I don't think he has any contacts in Bethel.
I do know Brazil used to print the blue interlinear as I ordered one a couple of years ago. I was under the impression that most of the book binding in Europe was done at the German branch?
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WTBTS Elder & Ministerial Servant Problems
by JW GoneBad ini attended a recent ministerial servant k m school on the east coast and the main school instructor mentioned among other things (part entitled: 'objective of the km school course') that the total number of ministerial servants is seriously less than it should be.
in times past the ratio of m ss to elders was much more than it is today.. in the u.s. apparently the total number of elders is 88,500+ as opposed to m ss 65,000. the numbers show & numbers don't lie: the society is running out of spiritual men.
the instructor stated that this is a new downward trend that has (in so many words) the society worried.. the next speaker (part entitled: 'why we must be spiritual men') added that in his years as a traveling servant the pool of m ss has always been much, much larger than it is today.
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88JM
From my notes of elders and ministerial servants training in late 2011 these were figures given for the U.K.:
- 79 circuits in the U.K.
- 12,675 elders in the U.K.
- 9,646 ministerial servants in the U.K.
I recall there was also mention of the lack of younger ministerial servants. The C.O. pointed out that in our circuit, there were only 3 ministerial servants under 25 at the time. I think there were probably a few more appointments as a result of that meeting alone when elders got back to their congregations.
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10 Years Japan losses 5,400 Publishers and 638 Kingdom Halls! Why?
by Witness 007 injapan had a handful of witnesses after ww 2....this number skyrocketed to 222,912 by 1998!
then something happened.
publisher figures didn't stop, they dropped by thousands over the next decade!.
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slimboyfat - sorry if I misunderstood (and sorry to de-rail the thread) but were you saying the JW in the irong lung was a myth? There is a 1993 Awake! article on Laurel Nisbet - is that account wrong?
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For those still "in"... is it just me?
by leaving_quietly ini'm still "in" and i've noticed an odd trend recently.
conversations with jws seem to be more jw-ish than ever!
in normal conversation, i'll hear: "these watchtowers are just wonderful!
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88JM
Fuzzy - just like their doctrine, reasoning and logic...
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For those still "in"... is it just me?
by leaving_quietly ini'm still "in" and i've noticed an odd trend recently.
conversations with jws seem to be more jw-ish than ever!
in normal conversation, i'll hear: "these watchtowers are just wonderful!
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88JM
I have to agree too - I think there is a lot more "OBEY THE GB!"
I mean, before it would have been maybe once or twice at each meeting, but now it seems like it's every item. Even (perhaps especially) in the Jeremiah book.
They seem to cram it in any way they can, regardless of whether it fits into the topic or not. They seem to even be doing it at the expense of actually learning anything new - it's all the same handful of scriptures re-hashed.
Jeremiah can actually be an interesting book from so many other angles - the history, chronology, events, archeology, the culture of the time - but all they do is twist it and harp on about GB this and GB that - very little time actually trying to see the verses and events in context.
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2013 District Convention Program: Gods Word is Truth!
by bats in the belfry in.
unlike god's word, that jws believe to be absolute truth, any one of their directives given at the 2013 district convention could be subject to misinterpretation.. .
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88JM
Interesting to see how "The Truth™" has changed since 1982 - just a half hour talk on "apostates" back then.
Today half of the program seems spent trying to explain what they think isn't truth...
(Convention and program review: WT 11-1-82 pages 20-26)
DAY 1
DAY'S THEME: Upholding Doctrinal TruthAFTERNOON
1:20 Music
1:30 Song No. 95 and Prayer
1:40 Chairman's Address:
Be Attentive to Kingdom Truth2:10 What the Truth Means to Us
2:30 Worshiping the One God of Truth
3:00 Song No. 21 and Announcements
3:10 Become Full-Grown in the Truth
Understanding the Bible's Teaching on--
The Soul
Creation
Resurrection
Being Born Again3:40 Exposing the Devil's Subtle Designs
(See WT 1-15-83 pages 18-22)4:00 Armed for the Fight Against Wicked Spirits
(See WT 1-15-83 pages 23-27)4:20 KEYNOTE ADDRESS:
Where Do You Stand on the Kingdom Issue?
(See WT 1-1-83 pages 8-24)4:50 Closing Song, No. 76, and Prayer
DAY 2
DAY'S THEME: Ministers of Kingdom Truth
MORNING
9:50 Music
10:00 Song No. 109 and Prayer
10:10 Consideration of Text for the Day
10:20 SYMPOSIUM: Enlarging Your Sacred Service
As a Congregation Publisher
As an Auxiliary Pioneer
As a Regular Pioneer or Other Full-Time Minister11:20 Song No. 9 and Announcements
11:30 Fulfilling the Kingdom Ministry
11:50 Aid Lowly Ones to Be Truth Proclaimers
(RELEASE: "Enjoy Life on Earth Forever!" (brochure))12:10 Song No. 51 and Intermission
AFTERNOON
2:00 Music
2:05 Song No. 92
2:10 "The Time Left Is Reduced"
(See WT 11-15-84 pages 21-26)2:30 What Is Our Position Toward Opposers of the Truth?
(See WT 3-1-83 pages 21-26)3:00 Song No. 91 and Announcements
3:10 DRAMA: "How...Will They Hear Without Someone to Preach?"
3:45 Prepared to Bear Witness to the Truth
3:55 Closing Song, No. 10, and Prayer
4:05 To the Field
DAY 3
DAY'S THEME: Living By Principles of TruthMORNING
9:30 Music
9:40 Song No. 65 and Prayer
9:50 Consideration of Text for the Day
10:00 SYMPOSIUM: Serving Jehovah as a Family
Husbands and Fathers, Exercise Christian Headship
Parents, Inculcate the Truth in Your Children
Youths, Remember, "What You Sow You Reap"
(See WT 11-15-84 pages 28-31)11:00 Song No. 88 and Announcements
11:10 Counteracting Permissiveness With Bible Principles
(See WT 8-15-83 pages 25-29)11:40 Ordained as Ministers of the Kingdom
12:10 Song No. 82 and Intermission
(To the site of the baptism)AFTERNOON
2:00 Music
2:05 Song No. 55
2:10 Following Bible Principles Is the Wise Course
2:40 How Jehovah's Standards Help Us
(See WT 6-15-83 pages 10-15)3:10 Song No. 71 and Announcements
3:20 Beware of Music That Debases
(See WT 10-15-83 pages 10-15)3:50 "Jerusalem"--A Cause for Exultation
(See WT 3-15-83 pages 17-26)4:20 The Truth That Leads to an Earthly Paradise
(RELEASE: "You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth" (book))5:00 Closing Song, No. 19, and Prayer
DAY 4
DAY'S THEME: Holding Fast to Prophetic TruthMORNING
9:30 Music
9:40 Song No. 29 and Prayer
9:50 Consideration of Text for the Day
10:00 Do Not "Turn Back to the Weak and Beggarly Things"
(See WT 6-15-83 pages 16-21)10:30 "Flocking Together in Battle Line"
(See WT 3-1-83 pages 16-21)11:00 Song No. 33 and Announcements
11:10 DRAMA: Fearless Proclaimer of an Unpopular Message
12:05 Song No. 39 and Intermission
AFTERNOON
2:05 Music
2:20 Song No. 105 and Prayer
2:30 PUBLIC LECTURE: The Truth That Can Set You Free
3:30 Song No. 62 and Announcements
3:40 Satisfied With Food at This Proper Time
4:00 On With the Proclamation of Kingdom Truth!
4:40 Closing Song, No. 110, and Prayer
