Posts by 88JM

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Do you tell people?

by MrFreeze in

as an ex-jw do you tell people about your jw past?

how much detail do you go into when you tell non-jw's about the organization.

i usually only ever say anything if somebody asks about my religious affiliation or mentions jw's.

88JM

Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I wanted to know if this question had been covered before and this thread I found is exactly what I was going to ask.

I had an experience at the weekend related to this and it's been playing on my mind all week.

I was away down in Manchester meeting some people about some work I was doing for them. JW stuff was the last thing on my mind - one of the reasons I enjoy travelling away is because I still live near where I grew up as a JW, so there's a lot of memories around.

I was in conversation with the people I met down in Manchester, and totally out of the blue they mentioned they had someone in the previous day who "used to be a JW" who was brought up in Australia. They then went on to explain the conversation they had with him all about what JW's can't do, while I stayed quiet. Incidentally they were correct about JW's views with everything they said - blood transfusions, homosexuality etc.

It wasn't a long conversation, but I did feel that I had the opportunity to speak up and I didn't. I'm not the sort of person to volunteer personal information to people I've just met, especially JW stuff. I didn't think it bothered me at first, but over the past few days it's really played on my mind almost to the point where I'm physically hurting about it inside. In a way I'm not sure what it is that bothers me - is it because I didn't speak up so I feel like a coward, or was it the weird coincidence of the JW subject coming up when I least expeceted it?

I don't have much experience speaking to non-JW's about being an ex-JW, so I'm not sure how people react to that kind of thing, so it was interesting to read this thread.

Incidentally, I would really like to meet the ex-JW guy who was visiting Manchester the previous day, last Friday. Apparently he lives in London, but originally from Australia where he grew up as a JW. Please do get in touch if you are on here. I was really amazed that a person would be so open like he was with a bunch of strangers.

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Local Kingdom Hall Speakers To Be Replaced By Governing Body Video Feeds.

by donuthole in

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so we've seen as the current gb is getting more facetime in an effort to reach the hearts and minds of the rank and file.

this took a leap with video feeds at an open annual meeting.

the international conventions are taking this a step farther.. do you think that local speakers at kingdom halls could ever be replaced by headquarter approved video feeds?.

88JM

If the economics of it were viable, I could see it happening at some point.

Most Kingdom Halls already have a telephone/internet link anyway so people can listen from home - decades ago that was probably thought of as unlikely too.

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The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)

by done4good in

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i am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.

many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.

intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?

88JM

Not trying to de-rail anything here, but could it be that INTJ's are more likely the type of people that join a public internet forum to discuss their feelings and experiences etc.? Perhaps this is the preferred method of dealing with their feelings, for INTJ's? Do other personality types just let it go and move on perhaps?

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What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

by frankiespeakin in

take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

88JM

INTJ

Introvert(44%) Intuitive(25%) Thinking(1%) Judging(33%)

Moderate preference of Introversion over Extraversion (44%)
Moderate preference of Intuition over Sensing (25%)
Marginal or no preference of Thinking over Feeling (1%)
Moderate preference of Judging over Perceiving (33%)

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Malawi Party Card vs US Passport HYPOCRISY of Gibbering Buddy

by hamsterbait in

as we all know jws were persecuted in malawi, beaten tortured and murdered, because they would not purchase (for about 70 cents) a card saying they support the political rule at that time.

if they did they wd be df .. what must a us citizen do in order to get a passport - and how in god's name do the wt leaders get one without a compromise nobody else wd be allowed to make?.

is this another case like the change on vaccinations in 53,because nathan homo knorrr knew he cd die of tropical diseases touring the third world.

88JM

I think some of those are also reproduced in Crisis of Conscience if you have a copy.

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Malawi Party Card vs US Passport HYPOCRISY of Gibbering Buddy

by hamsterbait in

as we all know jws were persecuted in malawi, beaten tortured and murdered, because they would not purchase (for about 70 cents) a card saying they support the political rule at that time.

if they did they wd be df .. what must a us citizen do in order to get a passport - and how in god's name do the wt leaders get one without a compromise nobody else wd be allowed to make?.

is this another case like the change on vaccinations in 53,because nathan homo knorrr knew he cd die of tropical diseases touring the third world.

88JM

http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com.es/2010/05/oath-of-allegiance_11.html

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My quest for knowledge "Can birds Fart"?

by jam in

i think i'm going over the edge with my quest for knowledge.

lol.

but there was a research on this subject and finally science answers.

88JM

I haven't googled yet, but I seem to remember this factoid from somwhere else - birds don't have the sphincter to keep gasses in or something.

I don't know. It was definitely something due to the sphincter.

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Teaching Creationism As Science Now Banned In All UK Public Schools

by cantleave in

great news.

http://richarddawkins.net/2014/06/teaching-creationism-as-science-now-banned-in-all-uk-public-schools/.

88JM

Will this apply to home schooling as well?

I know the school inspectors were not pleased that they found some schools using the "A.C.E. textbooks" - many home schoolers will still use them though.

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Germany loses 22 congregations and 41 KHs in 3 years (2011-2014)

by Viva la Vida in

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i just compared the latest data provided by the german wt and data i found searching for the same page in archive.org.

congregations 2011: 2232. congregations 2014: 2210. kh 2011: 1075. kh 2014: 1034. source: http://www.jehovaszeugen.de/statistik.18.0.html - this is a oficial site for germany.

.

88JM

See the wonderous exp... oh never mind.

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Iraq Descends Into Religious Civil War

by cofty in

half a million refugees are on the move ahead of sunni jihadists in northern iraq.. the speed of the advance is startling.

the iraqi army seems to be impotent.

the government's attempt to declare a state of emergency had to be abandoned when insufficient mps turned up to vote.. the insurgents are just 60 miles from baghdad this evening.

88JM

Who is funding and arming ISIS ?

Saudi Arabia yes, but it seems they are capturing newly-delivered arms from the USA to the Iraqi's too:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/how-the-us-is-arming-both-sides-of-the-iraqi-conflict.html

So the answer to who is arming Isis is that it's also partly the US, indirectly.

It's also worth mentioning that Isis are a particularly nasty bunch - even Al Qaeda denounced them:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/03/al-qaeda-denounces-syrian-jihadist-group-isis.html