I was discussing with a JW about a couple in the congregation here who are really struggling financially at the moment. They're a young-ish couple in their late 30's, basic education, self emplyed, on less than minimum wage, and their car which they took a loan out to buy less than a year ago had just failed it's M.O.T. test so they can't get to meetings at the moment, even if they could afford the fuel. I seriously doubt they have any kind of retirement plan at all, and their remaining aged parents are getting on as well. The JW lifestyle is certainly coming back to bite for some I have no doubt.
Posts by 88JM
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12Scary College Graph (or Why JWs Are Freakin' Broke)
by metatron inhttp://www.businessinsider.com/unemployment-and-salary-graduates-and-non-graduates-2014-4.
the contrast is quite dramatic.
otoh, you have all that student debt to pay off.. .
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Oh come on!!! seriously?? This weeks wt study!
by stuckinarut2 ini'm sitting here at the mtg, and i can't believe the mind numbing stupidity of this weeks wt "study"...( i use the word study loosely too by the way...).
how many dumb repeated questions can be posed to try and make a point?.
the opening paragraph illustration re blindness is classic!
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88JM
In the past these types of articles would at least try to throw you some statistics (albeit mis-quoted or cherry picked) to attempt to prove their point from some sort of emperical perspecive.
I find this article particularly horrible because there is now not even any attempt to prove things empirically - hardly any statistics - it's all subjective arguments and appeal to emotion, or insulting you if you don't agree with it (para. 10): "Can anyone reasonably deny that things have got much worse?"
One comment from a sister in the first paragraph about blindness at the hall here mentioned: "people in the world being blinkered, like horses, to things getting worse around them". Surely with articles like this there can be no-one more blinkered than JW's! They even admit to it in the last paragraph, for JW's "not be distracted by the noise from Satan’s world".
Just to top it off, I was thinking how this article is like the most unsavoury parts of the Daily Mail newspaper here in the UK, and then lo and behold the brother reading the WT whips out a clipping from - you guessed it - The Daily Mail, and then reads it out from the platform!
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Oh come on!!! seriously?? This weeks wt study!
by stuckinarut2 ini'm sitting here at the mtg, and i can't believe the mind numbing stupidity of this weeks wt "study"...( i use the word study loosely too by the way...).
how many dumb repeated questions can be posed to try and make a point?.
the opening paragraph illustration re blindness is classic!
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88JM
This is really bad having to sit through this. Nauseating.
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kingdom hall insurance....??
by punkofnice ini seem to recall that there was an assistance fund set up for insurance on kingdom halls that were essentially set up as insurance.. where you were not to insure the khs by normal insurance companies.does anyone know about this and does any kh claim againt the fund i.e.
the watchtower?.
sounds like a scam!.
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88JM
This reminds me of the Kingdom Hall fire in Scotland a few years ago in Auchinlech. Do any of the members here from Scotland know if they claimed from the Kingdom Hall Assistance Arrangement? Seems just like the sort of thing it is supposed to give cover for - I assume they claimed and that's how they were able to do the quickbuild re-build?
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"Draw Close To Jehovah" study - strange logic..
by BluesBrother inwhat do you think of the reasoning in this paragraph from this week's meeting study?.
draw close to jehovah - chapt 4 .
21 consider jehovahs self-restraint from a different angle.
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88JM
If the JW's think their God isn't coercive, then I would love to see how they think a coercive God would behave. I suspect it wouldn't be that much different.
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Jehovah's Witnesses in Swiss Army
by JHK inhttp://temoinsdejesus.fr/faux_prophetes/consolation_n%20505_1-octobre-1943.jpgp>.
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Memorial 2014: Wrong date?
by AnnOMaly inthis was meant to have nice inserted pictures and tidy hyperlinks but the forum's being glitchy today.
so unfortunately it's going to be a messy post where you're going to have to exercise your tapping fingers and click on the links to the pics to see what i'm referring to.
sorry about that.. in the article recently studied "do this in remembrance of me" (w13 12/15), there is a box on p. 23 giving the date of this year's memorial and how that date is arrived at.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013926.
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88JM
For a cult that is so date-oriented, you think they would at least try to get it right when it comes to these things!
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Venice votes on splitting from Rome
by 88JM inseems unsurprising considering the way the italian economy is going, but still interesting.
although the vote is an online poll and not legally binding.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26604044.
maybe scotland next, who knows?.
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Something something ice cream, my window blinds are hard to clean
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Venice votes on splitting from Rome
by 88JM inseems unsurprising considering the way the italian economy is going, but still interesting.
although the vote is an online poll and not legally binding.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26604044.
maybe scotland next, who knows?.
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88JM
Seems unsurprising considering the way the Italian economy is going, but still interesting. Although the vote is an online poll and not legally binding.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26604044
Maybe Scotland next, who knows?
BBC news: Venice votes on splitting from Rome
Voting has begun in Venice and the surrounding region on whether to break away from Italy.
Recent opinion polls suggest that two-thirds of the four million electorate favour splitting from Rome, but the vote will not be legally binding. The online poll was organised by local activists and parties, who want a future state called Republic of Veneto.
This would be reminiscent of the sovereign Venetian republic that existed for more than 1,000 years.
A focal point for culture, architecture and trade, Venice lost its independence to Napoleon in 1797.
Online voting is due to continue until Friday. The vote received very little coverage in Italy's national media but the organisers said they expected as many as two million people to take part.
The BBC's Alan Johnston in Rome says the vote reflects a growing separatist mood in parts of Europe, such as Spain's Catalonia region and Scotland, which votes on whether to become independent in September.
Moves towards independence often evoke more sympathy in wealthy northern Italy, where many resent what they see as the poorer south's waste and corruption.
Luca Zaia, governor of Veneto, the Venice region, rejected suggestions that the Italian constitution would prevent secession. International law, he told Libero Quotidiano, allowed "the right to self-determination".
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If you live in Sydney - this Exhibition is worth seeing (at the AGNSW)
by fulltimestudent inhttp://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/exhibitions/afghanistan/.
afghanistan - hidden treasures from the national museum, kabulbuy tickets online.
a glimpse into afghanistans ancient culture and those who risked all to protect it.. .
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88JM
I don't think the OP was trying to claim any biblical significance, but there is a few on here who perhaps due to their past as JWs and doing research, have a general interest in archeology and as you can imagine, artifacts coming out of Afghanistan are pretty rare at the moment.
Also it's nice to have some non-JW topics on the forum too to make it more interesting!