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  Worst Memorial Talk Ever!

  by The Searcher in

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  2. beliefs

  i honestly have never heard such claptrap being delivered in a memorial talk.. the speaker repeatedly put down the way other religions administered the bread & wine, and claimed that witnesses do it exactly as the bible describes.

  oh yeah????.

  he forgot to mention - when reading aloud 1 corinthians 11:25 - that after passing the bread, a full meal was to be shared, before the wine was passed around!

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  I know it was the same outline, but the fat sweaty elder didn't even bother to change his notes from last year - he just pulled out the same folder and gave his version almost word for word the same.

  It was also pretty much the same people as last year too, and even cheaper wine (the sister who bought it was concerned that it didn't have a screw cap!)

  I noticed this year that they don't go near any verses in Revelation to talk about the great crowd, only to John 10 to talk about the "other sheep" which is blatantly just referring to non-Isrealites.
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  JWs as described by Cracked

  by Vidiot in

  1. social
  2. humour

  http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-religions-youve-got-all-wrong-because-hollywood/.

  the article describes four different religions (rastafari, jws, amish, and scientology); jws are #3.. the jw entry is pretty accurate (and as usual, funny), but surprisingly doesn't mention the two-witness-rule-related legal troubles the wt has been having lately.

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  The writer discusses it being pulled here:

  http://www.cracked.com/forums/topic/199423/scientology/20#msg3383057
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  Don't You Wonder?

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  don't you wonder sometimes who these "others" are, the watchtower claims they are helping with spiritual and material needs?.

  .. "promoting the christian religion by helping congregations of jehovah's witnesses & others with their spiritual & material welfare.".

  .. exactly who are these others that are being helped with their spiritual & material needs?.

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  Funny in the activities section how one bit is described as "obtaining and giving away religious literature" - why didn't they just say "printing"?

  I wonder if they get the US branch or some other shell company to "sell" them the printed literature at a hugely inflated price so it doesn't look like they're doing a straight transfer of money but buying literature instead?
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  Age of "governing body" members

  by MacHislopp in

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  2. friends

  carey barber ..................b 1905. lyman swingle.................b 1910. albert schroeder.............. b 1911. john barr ..................... b 1913. daniel sydlik...................b 1919. milton henschel ...............b 1920. theodore jaracz...............b 1924. and.

  guy pierce .....................b 1934 (b.

  1 year before end of h.c.)*.

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  Mark Sanderson - born February 4th 1965
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  Regional Conventions 2015 - theme

  by Elisa1966 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i came across this website: http://www.ministryideaz.com/2014-jw-regional-convention-notebook-p/cu15dcgr.htm .

  there it reads: note taker for 2015-2016 "imitate jesus!

  " regional convention of jehovah's witnesses.

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  GB says: "IMITATE JESUS!"
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  Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief

  by Rufus T. Firefly in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope this link works for everyone.

  if you can watch this video, i think you will find it very interesting how closely scientology resembles the watchtower society.

  for example, the watchtower's 'apostates' equate to scientology's 'suppressives.

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  Will certainly make for an interesting documentary.

  Apparently Louis Theroux has been working on a documentary about it for quite a while too.

  Was listening Joe Rogan's podcast with him and they were discussing how the Scientology cult first seems to get all the dirt they can on someone (under the premise of confessing sins type of thing etc.) then they can use that to blackmail people when they threaten to leave. I hadn't considered the obvious cases like Tom Cruise and John Travolta where it looks like they were threatened to be outed as gay to keep them in the cult.

  Louis Theroux discussing it here from about 2:31:25:

  https://youtu.be/QjeV2_hKLao?t=2h31m25s
  
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  Today's groundless speculation thread - so why would a German copilot deliberately fly an airplane into a mountain?

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just can't wrap my head around this.

  the guy (a) evidently did all of this on purpose, and (b) evidently had no reason at all to do so.. there is a huge chunk of the puzzle missing from this one (so far)..

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  Either the pilot in the cockpit suffered a heart attack or some other disabling physical impairment where he was unconscious and could not let the other pilot back into the cockpit...

  That can be ruled out in this case - the cockpit door is designed to open with a keypad from the outside after 30 seconds, unless someone inside the cockpit actively switches the automatic opening off within that time. Unconscious people don't push switches.

  See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROIH3KCEIvs
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  DC2015 New Release: Brochure "Return to Jehovah" for those who faded/left

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it appears that a new 16-page brochure, with the title "return to jehovah" is to be released at the regional convention (dc) this year.

  it would be written specifically for those faded or da/df.chapters are:a letter from the governing body1.

  the lost one i will search for2.

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  From the contents listing, it sounds more like a brochure to keep people in, rather than get people back.
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  Today's groundless speculation thread - so why would a German copilot deliberately fly an airplane into a mountain?

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just can't wrap my head around this.

  the guy (a) evidently did all of this on purpose, and (b) evidently had no reason at all to do so.. there is a huge chunk of the puzzle missing from this one (so far)..

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  It's difficult to rationalize such a horrible action, but as we know from our JW days, people can rationalize very extreme things.
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  Leaked New Songs 139-142

  by toweragent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://jwtalk.net/forums/files/download/498-songs-140-142/.

  i don't know if anybody has seen this (or if anybody cares).

  but it seems that some of the "new" new songs have been leaked by somebody at bethel.. just a bit of a warning, do not click on that vocal rendition of song 142... it is awful.

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  They almost sound like a WT Christmas album?

  Song 140 starts like it's about to turn into this:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChU4M3fe-9Q

  And Song 141 sounds like this:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mg7ok8dmDU

  Song 142 is channeling The Lion King:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GibiNy4d4gc