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gma-tired2
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Petra/Vulcan/-Just coffee talk!
by Atlantis ini thought i might take a few minutes to sit down with the members here and have a cup of coffee with you, and introduce myself and my daughter debbie (petra), and i am john posting as (vulcan).
now i can't type worth anything so thats why i have petra do it.-we would like to thank mr. simon for his hospitality and if it is easier for us to post using the login atlantis uses, then that is ok!
there are 4 of us here using the same computer and it might be easier that way to keep track.
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Have you ever shunned someone and then later regretted it?
by 00DAD inlately, i've been reading a number of thread lately that deal with this topic.
one particularly poignant experience came from simon.
in simon's story he shares: .
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I never could quite understand how JWs believe this is a loving gesture. I started seeing in teens how hurtful this dfing is. I always said if any of my family were df'd I couldn't , wouldn't do this. I haven't shunned anyone since my teens. I have had to live up to this vow. Cousins and now my son. I tell others I broought him into this life and I am not going to hurt him. DF'ing was one of the first things that started my doubts.
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Dear Chichi89
by Aussie Oz init looks like you are in the first stages of waking up.. you have been shocked to the core by getting disfellowshipped, what for does not really matter here.
you came to voice your feelings then die, you have voiced the feelings and then hung in there.
i am sure many are very proud of you for that, i am.. now, your thoughts of survival are turned towards your loved one, will it work?, ''i'm a jw and he is not''.... fisrt up, you are now, not a jehovah's witness.
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Chhichi89 you hang in there girl. You are one reason I have been able to talk about JWN to a family member. Just a little bit but more than I would have thought a week ago. Feel proud you are hurting but you have made one step to helping plant a tiny, tiny seed.
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Is there anyone out there who married a non jW...?how did it turn out for ?Are u happy?
by Chichi89 inplease be honest....did love conquer it all?.
how did u make it work?.
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My daughter married a non JW and they have been married 20 years and parents of two teenagers. But she no longer claims to be a JW but they both have lived clean moral lives.
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May 15 2013 WT: "REAL elders skip meals and lose sleep!"
by cedars infinally we have the society's expectations of elders in print.. this is from page 9 of the may 15th study edition.... "as indicated by the experiences of the apostle paul, our ministry may result in sleepless nights and times without food.
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6:5) these expressions paint a vivid picture of self-sacrifice and may well remind us of pioneers who give their ministry first place in life while supporting themselves financially.
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Real elders often have to give up a lot to be an elder. Yes my FIL had a big heart and cared for the flock but he could be hard on his wife who wasn't use to this kind of treatment as they didn't marry until their own families were grown. She was in her 40's when they married. I also know how HARD some of the dcisions they have to make so they don't stumble others. Example: his grandaughter was getting married to an unbeliver and he had to refuse to attend. Grandma made sure she attended the wedding. I was proud she stood up to him. But when I saw his face when he dropped grandma off, you could see how much he wanted to stay. They say don't break up families? A grandparent should never have to make such a choice.
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When some of the old time JW's time is up i wonder what they think in their private moments.
by karter inwe had an old time jw pass away recently he lived his entire life lie the new system was going to be here tomorrow.. he was a gillard grad and went on to be missionry in west africa.. came back home when wife got pregent(they eventuly had 3 children) ,sold everything pre 75 to see the system out and pioneer then had to work his butt off to rebuild his finances and put a roof over his familys head.. he retired and became a co till his wifes health could no longer alow it.. he got a treminal illness and i wonder in his quiter moments did he think ....".ive lived my entire life for a dream that never came true".
he's only one of many i see,their lives comming to an end and the new system is no closer than it was when they started.. .
karter..
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My husband and I are in our mid 60's. Our mothers have lived past their mid 80s This history makes us feel possible to live another 20 years. When I hit my mid 30's we had some setbacks that meant I had to go to work. Hated it at that time but now I am happy it happened, when I see the amount we receive from SS it would be scary to live on that amount luckly I went to work for a company pension plan so our retirment is better then those that always tried to struggle on nothing. Our moms both remained faithful into their 80s but I have wondered how much my mom truly belived in her heart before she died. My MIL still believes she will live long enough to survive Armegeddon, she is 86.
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When some of the old time JW's time is up i wonder what they think in their private moments.
by karter inwe had an old time jw pass away recently he lived his entire life lie the new system was going to be here tomorrow.. he was a gillard grad and went on to be missionry in west africa.. came back home when wife got pregent(they eventuly had 3 children) ,sold everything pre 75 to see the system out and pioneer then had to work his butt off to rebuild his finances and put a roof over his familys head.. he retired and became a co till his wifes health could no longer alow it.. he got a treminal illness and i wonder in his quiter moments did he think ....".ive lived my entire life for a dream that never came true".
he's only one of many i see,their lives comming to an end and the new system is no closer than it was when they started.. .
karter..
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My husband and I are in our mid 60's. Our mothers have lived past their mid 80s This history makes us feel possible to live another 20 years. When I hit my mid 30's we had some setbacks that meant I had to go to work. Hated it at that time but now I am happy it happened, when I see the amount we receive from SS it would be scary to live on that amount luckly I went to work for a company pension plan so our retirment is better then those that always tried to struggle on nothing. Our moms both remained faithful into their 80s but I have wondered how much my mom truly belived in her heart before she died. My MIL still believes she will live long enough to survive Armegeddon, she is 86.
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Deteriorating content of the WT
by His Excellency inhas anyone noticed the recent deterioration in the quality of wt's contents lately?..
the spiritual food seems to be getting more and more shitty these days.
i have given a thought to what could really be going wrong, and if it is likely that some on the wiriting committee is consciously dishing out those nonsense to facilitate more poeple seeing ttat.
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They have lost a lot of their deeper thinking writers, Ray Franz, Barbara Anderson, and the others. You DF your critcal thinkers you are left with those who are lucky to have graduated high school. They just aren't educated enough to make the old stuff a little interesting. That leaves you with becoming stricter thinking you will have perfect kids (followers) that is usually followed by a strong rebellion.
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the other side of disfellowshipping
by nowwhat? inpersonally i hate it when you come face to face with someone disfellowshiped and you can't do a simple acknowledgement or greeting.
they are obviously making an effort to be there to be reinstated.
as i recall back in the 1970's they did allow this but what is always the case some took advantage of this provision and in engaged in full blown conversations.
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and as you sit in back at hall, study, show respect even when you feel you were disfellowshiped wrongly. and each jc meeting you plead to be allowed to rejoin, they turn you down again, Parents asked why answer( many parents do not want children reinsted quickly, they want to make sure their kids are repentent) do you buy this CRAP true story
of course his true sin was being disfellowshiped from Bethel. It is nearly 2 years. Keep it up JW'S and another will join this forum.
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Deteriorating content of the WT
by His Excellency inhas anyone noticed the recent deterioration in the quality of wt's contents lately?..
the spiritual food seems to be getting more and more shitty these days.
i have given a thought to what could really be going wrong, and if it is likely that some on the wiriting committee is consciously dishing out those nonsense to facilitate more poeple seeing ttat.
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working in food sevice you learn about dealing with food. First time served it is good, second time heated, stirred, and served it still tastes good, third time reheated,stirred, and served it is boring and doesn't taste very good,.Forth time and any time served after it starts to smell, starts bad bacteria growing. Dangerous for your health if you eat it. Does it sound familiar to anyone else.