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  Beliefs clarified - A big fat WTF for 2025

  by ukpimo in

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  jehovah’s witnesses have an official page for clarified beliefs they encourage elders, ministerial servants, regular pioneers, as well as all the rest of the elite, to keep up to date with:.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174.

  2025 has a curious clarification:.

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  Obviously, AI confuses JW with mormons and their name badges.
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  Lowrence**In German for you!

  by Atlantis in

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  i there are any more language requests, come back to this thread so that i do not clutter up the board.

  ( lowrence** german** s-147** announcements**2025** january.. https://pdfupload.io/docs/72d53637 .

  petra!.

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  Jensus

  It seems to be automatically translated to German. Wording and form of adress is not coherent with standard JW style.
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  Trump Winds Lawsuit Against ABC

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  abc news, stephanopoulos settle defamation lawsuit with trump, pay $15 million, apologize.

  trump has started winning even before he takes office.

  in other news, it is unclear what will be the fate of fbi director christoper wray who authorized the invasion of trumps home and the rummaging through his wife's underwear drawer.. .

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  Winds?
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  Conversion Therapy for Gay Bethelites in Poland (?)

  by Jensus in

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  2. beliefs

  recently, there was a rather accurate report on jw on german tv station "sat1".

  you find it on their streaming service joyn.. https://www.joyn.de/serien/jenseits-des-glaubens-zwischen-religion-und-verblendung/1-2-die-zeugen-jehovas.

  there was one piece of information that was new for me: a former bethelite explained that he realized that he was gay.

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  Jensus

  Since Alex states that these individuals took the costs, I doubt it was paid by Bethel. Also, no health insurance would pay for this. But I also doubt that a Bethel Elder would give such an advice without the knowledge of the higher-ups. And it was an international approach that led to the US.

  However, I posted this because I assumed there might be others here who know about any details. It was the first time, I heard about this and the rest of the broadcast was quite accurate.
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  Conversion Therapy for Gay Bethelites in Poland (?)

  by Jensus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently, there was a rather accurate report on jw on german tv station "sat1".

  you find it on their streaming service joyn.. https://www.joyn.de/serien/jenseits-des-glaubens-zwischen-religion-und-verblendung/1-2-die-zeugen-jehovas.

  there was one piece of information that was new for me: a former bethelite explained that he realized that he was gay.

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  Jensus

  I have transcribed and translated the part of the broadcast:

  "In Bethel, Alex continually fights his demons. Despite hard work, prayers and preaching, he is unable to deny his homosexuality. In desperation, he finally confides in an elder.
  

  Alex: “He then advised me to get in touch with someone who was also at Bethel. He said: “He has the same problem as you.” And then he actually told me: yes, he's currently undergoing therapy, conversion therapy, to be cured of his homosexuality. It would be nice if you could do that too, because it would really prove that you are serious and that you really love God, and he will help you and support you so that you become normal. And then I was so desperate and depressed at the time that I thought: “Yes, then I'll just do it.” And then we always went to Poland. Poland, why? Because it's forbidden in Germany.”
  

  Reporter: “I'm shocked right now that Jehovah's Witnesses assume that homosexuality can be cured.”

  Alex: “Not a single person who took part in this therapy was cured of homosexuality. There really were Jehovah's Witnesses from all over the world. There were some from America, from Great Britain, from Germany, from Poland. And all those who simply have this pressure of suffering take on these costs and these efforts and all this stress just to be cured. But that made me feel worse and worse, and in the end I was very suicidal.

  Expert: “Conversion therapy claims that it can change a person's sexual orientation. This is a very dangerous claim for many reasons, because we know scientifically that people's sexual orientation cannot be changed. Furthermore, homosexuality is not a mental disorder, and we know that such offers can have very negative effects. These people who take up these offers and really believe that they can change their sexual orientation typically find out when they come to terms with themselves that what they are promised does not happen at all. And then they have the impression that they are doing something wrong because they don't realize that the offer is already dubious.”

  When Bethel realized how badly Alex was doing, they sent him home. It was clear to him that he had failed as a Jehovah's Witness. Traumatized, he returns to Stuttgart."
  
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  Conversion Therapy for Gay Bethelites in Poland (?)

  by Jensus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently, there was a rather accurate report on jw on german tv station "sat1".

  you find it on their streaming service joyn.. https://www.joyn.de/serien/jenseits-des-glaubens-zwischen-religion-und-verblendung/1-2-die-zeugen-jehovas.

  there was one piece of information that was new for me: a former bethelite explained that he realized that he was gay.

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  Recently, there was a rather accurate report on JW on German tv station "SAT1". You find it on their streaming service JOYN.

  https://www.joyn.de/serien/jenseits-des-glaubens-zwischen-religion-und-verblendung/1-2-die-zeugen-jehovas

  There was one piece of information that was new for me: a former Bethelite explained that he realized that he was gay. He was contacted by the Elders and they send him to Poland for some form of conversion therapy to heal him from his homosexuality. It was state that it was conducted in Poland because this kind of therapy is illegal in Germany. The former Bethelite said that he met other JW from several countries in this therapy.

  I have never heard about that.
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  Watchtower in the NEWS. DUBLIN: "Former top UBS executive joins Jehovah’s Witnesses’ new Ireland-based asset venture"

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  slate of industry heavy-hitters sign up to management company run by religious group".

  slate of industry heavy-hitters sign up to management company run by religious group.

  28 aug 2024. john mulligan.

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  „German banking giant Sparkasse“

  Just to set the record straight: „Sparkasse“ is what each city and community has as a banking institution. Their main goal is not to generate profit and they are all independent. So, „banking giant“ reads a bit strange. Technically, they are not even a bank. Nevertheless, they have umbrella associations, he might have worked for one of those.
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  Thanking Jehovah God for Sports

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  serena william's thanks jehovah god for allowing her to participate in sports.

  how nice.

  my jw parents followed the rules and thought they were doing jehovahs will by denying me participation in sports.

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  Jehovah also blessed King Salomon.
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  Vice President Kamala Harris…your thoughts??

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  good pick?

  bad pick?

  helpful to president biden?

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  I just received my DNA results from Ancestry.com
  

  My Mother was German

  Mine are there, too. Maybe we are related.
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  Thanking Jehovah God for Sports

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  serena william's thanks jehovah god for allowing her to participate in sports.

  how nice.

  my jw parents followed the rules and thought they were doing jehovahs will by denying me participation in sports.

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  Jensus

  I also heard the quote: „ For physical training is beneficial for a little, but godly devotion is beneficial for all things, as it holds promise of the life now and the life that is to come.“

  I note that this rendering is more negative than other translations that state physical training is good but godly devotion is better.