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  I am so bummed!

  by TweetieBird in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i live in an apartment and work from home.

  earlier today i see a couple of sheriff's cars, an ambulance, and fire truck go whizzing by my apartment and head down to my friends building.

  she just called me and told me that the guy that lives above her hung himself.

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  I live in an apartment and work from home. Earlier today I see a couple of Sheriff's cars, an ambulance, and fire truck go whizzing by my apartment and head down to my friends building. She just called me and told me that the guy that lives above her hung himself. His girlfriend found him. He was only 21. It makes me sick to think that someone so young feels death is their only option.
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  RutherfordsForgiveness?

  by R.Crusoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this intrigues me!!.

  as a jw i was taught and melted into the mould of forgiveness so that i pained over seeing the reasons why wrongdoers do wrong and if they repented everything was fine!

  i am an extremely forgiving and understanding person when given the opportunity to be via reasonable communication!.

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  from Wikipedia...

  "Rutherford was born to a Baptist farm family in Morgan County, Missouri on November 8, 1869. Harboring an interest in law for many years, his father initially opposed his interests in law studies, but eventually relented and allowed him to go to college,provided Joseph pay for someone to work for him on his father's farm. After completing his education, he worked as a court reporter and was admitted to the bar at Boonville, Missouri. Later he became a special, or substitute judge in the same Fourteenth Judicial District of Missouri. Because of this background in law he was often referred to as "Judge Rutherford", a name he carried with him for the rest of his life."

  FYI
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  RutherfordsForgiveness?

  by R.Crusoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this intrigues me!!.

  as a jw i was taught and melted into the mould of forgiveness so that i pained over seeing the reasons why wrongdoers do wrong and if they repented everything was fine!

  i am an extremely forgiving and understanding person when given the opportunity to be via reasonable communication!.

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  Interesting question. Everything I have always read about Rutherford (outside of organization) indicates that he was not a nice person. I think he was more of a "do as I say and not as I do" guy. I don't recall reading on favorable thing about the man.
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  My wife says "They miss you at the Hall"

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  she comes home with "sis.

  curious says she misses you.".

  "tell her i am right here, a phone call away.".

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  At the last hall I went to, I use to get that from 2 of my close friends when I would run into them in public. They would always say "we miss you!" One day one of them was going through a separation with her husband (a real piece of work and a brother in good standing) and needed some furniture. I happened to have a table and chairs that I was going to give her and she avoided me like the plague. I guess she must have thought it would be demon possessed.
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  Need help with MIL

  by TweetieBird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few weeks ago she asked if we still believed it was jehovah's organization.

  i hadn't heard from her until this morning.

  i asked her to show me from the bible only where it says that this is j's organization.

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  changeling and dkeithia, you are probably right. It really didn't (and doesn't) matter what I said, she can and always falls back on "the light gets brighter" and "Jehovah will straighten it out in his own time."

  She asked me why I felt like the organization seemed more like the scribes and pharisees of Jesus' day and I said that no matter what I did, I always left the meetings feeling like I would never measure up and likely not make it anyway. She doesn't think the meetings make people feel that way but I heard it way too often. She's in denial.
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  Need help with MIL

  by TweetieBird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few weeks ago she asked if we still believed it was jehovah's organization.

  i hadn't heard from her until this morning.

  i asked her to show me from the bible only where it says that this is j's organization.

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  I just remembered something funny after reading another thread...when we were talking about the UN issue, she actually blamed it on Ray Franz. I told her that Ray Franz was long gone before they joined the UN.
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  Need help with MIL

  by TweetieBird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a few weeks ago she asked if we still believed it was jehovah's organization.

  i hadn't heard from her until this morning.

  i asked her to show me from the bible only where it says that this is j's organization.

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  A few weeks ago she asked if we still believed it was Jehovah's organization. I hadn't heard from her until this morning. We talked about a lot of things, she kept saying that I turned my back on Jehovah. I told her that I hadn't turned my back on J but just didn't believe he was using the organization anymore. I asked her to show me from the bible only where it says that this is J's organization. She kept quoting stuff from the publications but I asked her to only give my scriptural proof. We moved on to another subject. Really so much that my head is spinning.

  UN issue - (again) She basically told me to get over it and not let it stumble me. Bottom line, if they joined it was a mistake, but now it's over and to forget about it. I asked her if she thought it possible for Jehovah to remove his holy spirit from the organization of which we moved on to another subject. i.e. JW's are the only ones preaching in 234 lands.

  Here's what I need help with...we talked about other religions that preach and maybe they don't do everything right but neither do JW's. She asked me what specifically JW's do wrong or don't do (scripturally). My mind turned to swiss cheese. I want to be prepared for the next round and I KNOW there will be another round.

  Knowing that I'm discussing this with a die-hard, pioneer who literally has never done a wrong thing in her life, is there anything that I can say to her that could possibly make her stop and think? She feels like people that leave the organization do so because they are either immoral or apostate. Since I'm not immoral that makes me an apostate. I know that there are so many on this board that were former elders, ministerial servants, pioneers, really good publishers, not so good publishers like me, circuit overseers, district overseers, etc., a lot of really spiritual minded people that finally saw through the bs and got out. That's what I want to hear about...the straw that broke the camel's back.

  Thanks, I know this is long.
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  Was there a new announcement Thursday night?

  by TweetieBird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i did a search to see what the special announcement was for thursday night but couldn't find anything.

  was there one or just more smoke up everyone's backends?

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  Okay, another week has come and gone...anything?
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  I think the noose just tightened a bit.

  by 5go in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we had an interesting local needs.. first it clearly stated if you are not making all the meetings you will not make it in to the new system period no exceptions.

  they twisted the story of the red sea to make an example.

  saying you can not disobey once, or else you be left stuck in the bottom of the red sea.. from now on the elders will be making shepherding calls on those that are not attending regularly.. also, it was stated that if you know of any not attending regularly.

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  Glad my publisher record cards are 3,000 miles away from where I live. I forgot to let them know that I moved. Oops!
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  With every breath that I took, I wanted the JWs to be right...

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i wish i could not think its so wrong when everyone i know and love thinks its so right.. i'm so mad... i wish i could run to my husband and tell him how angry i am.

  tell him and my family that i don't ever want to go near a kh again.

  ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  I know exactly how you feel. I use to pray that I could believe it was the truth again since it's much easier with the blinders on.

  I have been successfully fading for the past several years but it required moving from my hometown. My husband had doubts long before I did and when I finally confessed to him that I read Crisis of Conscience and didn't believe it was the truth anymore, he said that he had felt that way for years but was afraid that I would leave him if he wasn't a JW. Fast forward to the present, we have recently been found out by the family that we no longer attend meetings and have thus been shunned by our family. I dreaded it for years but now I feel like a HUGE weight has been lifted off of me. Blood is not thicker than water. But, I can now do what I feel is right. As long as I have my husband and kids (which I do) it doesn't matter if the rest of the family wants to have anything to do with us. They are a messed up bunch anyway.

  As a side-note: A really good book that helped me through this is "The Four Agreements" which is how I try to live each day now.