anyone know anything concrete about the masons & the illuminati?
i've read some things here and there on the net but nothing outside of general ramblings?
i've heard the typical, "they run the freeworld", "when you become one, you're one for life", "you'll have a great hookup if you're one of them" spiel.
As best as I can figure...
Russell was a Mason-wanna-be but never was (he admitted he wasn't though he made several references to the Masons)
sf has done considerable research on the matter. I would suggest pulling up his threads, you will find lots of info.
i once heard a story about a farmer who owned an old shack.
he wanted torn down.
he kept shooting at it until it.
I like your thinking, metatron.
my first post here, been lurking for quite a while.
this place has been a real help in my journey.. a little background...raised a jw from day one, 3rd generation, 3 grandparents of the annointed, father and mother gilead graduates, father always prominent in the org.
never really felt i fit in but played the game.
Welcome to the board.
Be patient with your wife. Mulan is right, just throw tidbits from time to time.
My father da'd himself long before I had an open mind about "the truth." But eventually, little things that he said kept resurfacing.
Check out Freeminds (link at bottom of page), Randy has some excellent information. There is a letter from a brother who slowly got his family out, by incorporating research into their family study. Excellent story.
Fortunately, I have a husband who feels the same way I do. We are both inactive. Our 2 grown children never got baptized and saw through the hypocrisy long before we did. My 15 year old son, who scared me for a while with talks of baptism, doesn't seem interested in the meetings at all now. We do have siblings and parents that are still deeply entrenched and I doubt that that will ever change. But I'm grateful that I will not have to face losing my children due to the religion.
Good luck and I look forward to hearing from you again.
in 1975 jws had several things going for them.
the ex-jws that left because of earlier prophetic failures had no real way to reach us.
most jws were of a newer generation, eager for something to happen given the times we lived in.
Great post, Amazing...as always, very insightful.
Here's an off-the-wall idea for the GB...why not start from scratch and actually teach what is in the bible for a change, instead of putting their own spin on scripture.
i know that if anyone from the local lafayette congregations see my name and what i have to say , they will know who i am.
and i honestly don't give a flying f*ck.
jim day is no different than the rest of the witnesses.
I must have missed something. Who the hell is Jim Day and why has he pissed you off so much?
unfortunately, my wt library isn't working so i can't post an actual quote (i suppose the witness god put an electronic curse on it), however - do you remember those really good(?
) articles telling us how the witnesses have always used the latest technology in spreading "this good news" to all parts of the world?.
there was phonograms, photo dramas of creation, latest printing facilities and the first of it's kind multi lingual photo type setting equipment and so on.. and then came the internet, well i mean the proliferation of internet use as the internet has been around since the 60's in one form or another.. there are two problems as i see it with the internet:.
Excellent post, ballistic.
James, although I am white, I appreciate what you said about the black brothers and sisters. I live in the South and I think it is even worse for Southern blacks.
Zev, I started out almost the same way you did. I thought to myself, what are they so afraid of? My dad, when he da'd himself tried to tell me that truth could stand up to any kind of scrutiny.
I feel, as others, that the WTS will eventually have to go mainstream to keep the members, therefore, it won't surprise me to see online subscriptions one of these days. I'm actually surprised that they weren't the first to offer it way back when. They've always bragged about being the first to pioneer different things, i.e. M.E.P.S. (I think that is what it was called). Some ex-bethelites can correct me if I'm wrong.
the fight for what is right.
as i reviewed the events of last year, it brought me to the simple comment above.
the thirty first of december will mark my one-year anniversary of no longer serving as an elder.
Thank you Bill for standing up for what is right. You have my deepest respect. I can only imagine the sacrifice you and your family have made in behalf of the silent lambs out there.
Those bastards have a lot to answer for.
whew!
am i glad it's friday...this has been the most stressful week at work.
i think i'm turning into an alcoholic.
Whew! am I glad it's Friday...this has been the most stressful week at work. I think I'm turning into an alcoholic.
I cannot wait until 5 o'clock, I have a hot date...with the hubby, of course.
You guys pray for me that I can make it another 4 hours and 20 minutes and I will pray for all the rest of you in the same boat.
Have a great weekend!
i think i have my mind made up.
i'm moving more money out of stocks to purchase a 2nd home in florida on or near the beach.
i hope to put 50% or so down on a $200,000 property and rent it out part of the year to cover the mortgage.. does anyone have any experience with this type of situation or suggestions on what my first steps should be.. thanks in advance for any help.. take care.
I'm at work right now, but I will email you later, after Survivor and CSI of course.
my first post here, been lurking for quite a while.
this place has been a real help in my journey.. a little background...raised a jw from day one, 3rd generation, 3 grandparents of the annointed, father and mother gilead graduates, father always prominent in the org.
never really felt i fit in but played the game.
Hey Jan, are you sure you are not Jesus? You look a little like him.
