Flipper, that was Me and Peggy Sue you were talking to! Two more magazines to add to our Field Service Report Card for October 2013. Time and Magazines are all that matters to us, what's wrong with taking a few apostate tracts if we can say "we placed ten magazines today!", it makes for a great Thursday Night "Ministry School" part.
AuntConnie
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1st Time in 3 Years JW's call at our Door - Two 30 yr. long Time JW's
by flipper ini thought i was back on the jw radar after my jw daughter had a local elder call on me back in 2011 - but apparently not.
he obviously didn't let his elders know i lived here, no record was kept for posterity and just called my daughter telling her that her " dad has differences with the organization " because he never called back on me as he promised to talk again.
as i'm just inactive for 10 years.. so these two older jw ladys come knocking yesterday - one lady about 57 and the other lady older about 71 yrs.old ( i asked how long they had been jw's and told me they both have been in 30 years.
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Absolute Proof the Watchtower and Governing Body are from God!
by AuntConnie in.
throwing a bone to my fellow jehovah's witnesses needing help defending the teaching god picked the watchtower back in 1919. just trying to make your life easier with a simple explanation, no more complex doctrines, ok.. http://witforjesus.org/images/jwarticles/jwparadox.jpg.
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Silly brother, no JW is going to know the difference between a Paradox and Tautology will they? Brother J. Hofer, we are taught to love our eisegesis and hate the exegesis because New Light demands that!
Caliber, how come the Watchtower and Governing Body kept us from knowing about Russell’s love of Pyramid-ology and all the dark pagan and occult methods employed to find the End?
Now with the Internet, no more hiding their piles of dung in ancient archieves and books. They are the "Dogs" St. Peter spoke of, and like good little dogs these leaders of the Watchtower left their shit for everyone to step on. Witnesses like me were too dumb, for decades we refused to stop and smell the shit, they passed off as Manna! If only we had did some research instead of listening to their fearful crying to avoid "Apostate Literature" and "Higher Education College" are lives would not have been robbed by those hucksters, Lord Jesus Please Forgive us for sinning!
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I will give my husband the divorce he wants
by losingit innot because i agree with him.
because i do not want the divorce.
but because i love him and i want to respect him.
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AuntConnie
" I am just so scared. I have made so many mistakes. I just want to hide from the world. I figure that's the best way to stop making mistakes and to stop getting hurt."
I wish I could leave town and be far away, maybe a small town where nobody knows who I am. We both could take off and find a small farm, only go to town when the pantry is empty and nobody will know our past lives or mistakes with men and the Organization of Guilt.
Honey, hiding from the World sound's good in theory, sorry the World is going to find you. Your act of love by giving him a divorce, he desires you to seperate from him so he can chase some young flusy woman? If he is blaming you for the Limbo or Hell you are living in, he is paving a path to make the elders sympathetic once he committs adultry Girl!
You will drop further in depression under your current circumstances, "missed deadlines" are going to become a common place with your stress and depression levels growing. Are you seeing a therapist or psychiatrist to help ameloriate the internal agnony your heart is feeling? Your husband knows how to turn your buttons on and off, some men are assholes who don't care if they give you the impression "one minute their in love and want sex', next moment they are screaming at you and yelling "I want a divorce bitch!".
I think you might re-read my posts on all this cult has offered me through the years, has your husband locked you up in a room for a day? Did he steal your clothes so you could not leave the house because he was angry at you? How about leaving you in a tiny cabin near a lake with snow with four month-old baby and no money or heater while he took off for a three day poker trip?
My outlook is so twisted from the Cult, for decades I had to deal with "willful non-support", verbal and physical abuse while smiling to a happy Kingdom Hall of JWs who thought my husband was pure love and compassion!
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Absolute Proof the Watchtower and Governing Body are from God!
by AuntConnie in.
throwing a bone to my fellow jehovah's witnesses needing help defending the teaching god picked the watchtower back in 1919. just trying to make your life easier with a simple explanation, no more complex doctrines, ok.. http://witforjesus.org/images/jwarticles/jwparadox.jpg.
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Throwing a bone to my fellow Jehovah's Witnesses needing help defending the teaching God picked the Watchtower back in 1919. Just trying to make your life easier with a simple explanation, no more complex doctrines, ok.
http://witforjesus.org/images/jwarticles/jwparadox.jpg
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TOUCHED BY AN APOSTATE, ONE YEAR AFTER EATING THE RED PILL.
by AuntConnie intouched by an apostate.
i cant decide if i want to curse or hug and kiss all the friends on jwn for giving me a bite of the red pill and allowing me the clarity i never had growing up.
we were raised one hundred-percent cult and our family obeyed all the rules that we could, some rules from the cult my mother refused to obey for a greater-good, like humanity, helping disfellowshiped ex-jws who were poor or depressed, she did not follow the cult's code of treating weak or mentally ill people like shit.
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AuntConnie
I want to thank Ray Publisher for exposing me to the real insides of a judicial committee. Everyone going before a JC need's to bring some recording device to protect yourself from a "misunderstandings" or gross embellishment men holding a grudge against the defedant will use. I was told how some elders would lie and tell the defendant "you said this and that last time we met!" which was totally a lie.
Everyone on JWN has been so kind, I can live without my husband if worse comes to worse, he needs me more than I need him. I am tired of his abuse and playing his power trip over me. I will change from being a victim, time to change! He leaves for work at 9:00 AM only to return before 1:00 PM, it's possible he won't rat me out.
Your kind words are something everyone here needs, we are all struggling in a world we expected would be Paradise now. God Bless and thank you so much, you empathy and kindness transcends everything I experienced in the Organization. Kind regards to everyone who picked up I was trying to explain the crazy ideas some she-elders have about the weak members of the JW Family. Your love and compassion is what brings everyone to JWN, it brings relief and block's the harsh Sun from beating up face up badly. God Bless you again :)
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One year since my Judicial Committee with JW elders - Transcribed finally!
by RayPublisher inwell it took a loooong time to do, but i have typed up all 29,000+ words and made a transcript.
it has been a year and a month actually since i went in and let me them df me, and it feels great to be out of watchtower!!!!.
a picture of the first page is here:.
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AuntConnie
Eric, the two older elders are in their early 60s, neither of those men are my age. The younger man is probably 33-35 years old at the maxium. I read through your pages and wanted you to correct those two numbers. There is no way Dennis or Cosmo is my age, both men are min 59-63 max- years old.
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TOUCHED BY AN APOSTATE, ONE YEAR AFTER EATING THE RED PILL.
by AuntConnie intouched by an apostate.
i cant decide if i want to curse or hug and kiss all the friends on jwn for giving me a bite of the red pill and allowing me the clarity i never had growing up.
we were raised one hundred-percent cult and our family obeyed all the rules that we could, some rules from the cult my mother refused to obey for a greater-good, like humanity, helping disfellowshiped ex-jws who were poor or depressed, she did not follow the cult's code of treating weak or mentally ill people like shit.
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Thank's Dewander, if one person will get the gist and understand the cult allows spousal abuse by telling the women "are you being a good wife", or "Did you make your husband nice dinners". I said "well, uh, after working fifteen hours today while he sat on his rocketman-chair watching T.V., I was tired and he left the kitchen, bathroom and house for me to clean. This went on for years, I was the bread-winner, cook, maid while he ran off on elder-busy work".
If only one person get's the message of Aunt Connie, my guilt and relationship with God can improve, I allowed this man and the Cult to take away my dignity and any time I read anything like Cosmo or any good books, he would attack them as "Satan's Tools" while he turned up R-rated movies with plenty of profanity. That's the same garbage many of our brothers and sisters are battling against but they are too afraid of displeasing Jehovah to take a stand. I almost said "I wish the friends on JWN could see some of the really crummy spouses" and "Ding!", I realized that's why we are here, we all have had some real crack-pots living in our homes. To long-time married JWNer's, congradulations escaping and remaining unified, our marriage would fall apart if my husband lost his "PRECIOUS, PRECIOUS ELDER RING!" :O
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NEVER WASTE YOUR TIME WITH YOUR JW FAMILIES KIDS, IT'S A WASTE!
by AuntConnie inyou won't be disappointed when all the years you played with the little bastards, feed the assholes and baby-sat the little ungrateful trolls come's to pass.
please don't waste you time like i did, my evil family let their little snott-nosed creeps roam around all day (they were in home school, mom was working while elder dad kicked the kids out to watch howard stern and x-rated movies) so the little freaks showed up after my kids got out of regular school.. .
wasting your time on selfish nephews and nieces is insanity, you will discover this once those golems grow up.
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AuntConnie
You won't be disappointed when all the years you played with the little bastards, feed the assholes and baby-sat the little ungrateful trolls come's to pass. Please don't waste you time like I did, my evil family let their little snott-nosed creeps roam around all day (They were in home school, Mom was working while elder dad kicked the kids out to watch Howard Stern and x-rated movies) so the little freaks showed up after my kids got out of regular school.
Wasting your time on selfish nephews and nieces is insanity, you will discover this once those golems grow up. I believe your family is better off by you spending time with your own kids, don't let your lazy ass family's kids destroy your good days by allowing them to create havoc with your kids. For almost a decade while my evil witch family member was working, her kids we allowed to buzz around like flies, bored, no schooling and now with their inept social skills, relationships are hard for them to keep. Just my warning, I would never waste a second on any JW family member, as Londo posted by Steve Hassan, they will turn quicker on you than a Pakistania Muslim Mob against a Female Christian Woman relief worker!
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TOUCHED BY AN APOSTATE, ONE YEAR AFTER EATING THE RED PILL.
by AuntConnie intouched by an apostate.
i cant decide if i want to curse or hug and kiss all the friends on jwn for giving me a bite of the red pill and allowing me the clarity i never had growing up.
we were raised one hundred-percent cult and our family obeyed all the rules that we could, some rules from the cult my mother refused to obey for a greater-good, like humanity, helping disfellowshiped ex-jws who were poor or depressed, she did not follow the cult's code of treating weak or mentally ill people like shit.
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TOUCHED BY AN APOSTATE
I can’t decide if I want to curse or hug and kiss all the friends on JWN for giving me a bite of the Red Pill and allowing me the clarity I never had growing up. We were raised one hundred-percent Cult and our family obeyed all the rules that we could, some rules from the Cult my mother refused to obey for a greater-good, like humanity, helping disfellowshiped ex-JWs who were poor or depressed, she did not follow the Cult's code of treating weak or mentally ill people like shit. Dad could not stand the sight of seeing the harsh nature of disfellowshiping and allowing a starving child to live on the streets and felt it was wrong. He was removed as a elder for doing good to ex-JWs who were insane or too young to understand their sins or what type of dedication they made with New York. I blame my mother and father for not offering more choices in my life as a child. Pre-1975, the only correct "Things To Do", were " Bethel, Marriage and Pioneering", that's it! Mom and Dad were quick to allow me to marry before I graduated from High School in 1968, why, because of 1975. That's all that mattered, "Stay Alive Till 75!" because it's going to make all our wildest dreams come true and more! I could have my neighbors giant castle without lifting so much as a finger to work in this system!”
It did not take long for husband’s hatred of parental figures to rub off on me and use his philosophy to snake from my parents anything we needed. He said "Their not my parents, I don't give a dam!", so we used them for anything I could get out of them. Hubby was excellent at driving a wedge between me and my family, I now had a Sith-lord of 19 years-old telling me to dump all my feelings I had for Mom and Dad. he came from a grossly disfunctional family, his views of life-givers were “Parents can’t be trusted, they’all will let u down” because his mother allowed his three sisters to be taken by the State of Washington because his mother was dating a known child sex offender. Oh how he hated his mother and father for being mentally ill and deeply in various drugs. He hated the fact my parents were well respected with all the Witnesses, they helped all the sheep, nobody would go hungry with my parents around. They gave money to help friends with no food or needing help with ever telling the beneficiary of the gifts who they were. My husband, he is the opposite, he loves the sound of "clap", "clap", "clap"................. and blew his horn if he ever did any act of common decency. Hubby took no time in teaching me how to hate my parents and family, he was going to be the only planet in my Universe and when I spoke my mind, he locked me in a room with locks on the outside. When my three brothers found out, they almost beat the Hell out of them, I hated my brothers so much for finding out my husband was abusing me. I hated my parents even more for allowing me to get married but I refused their offer to "Divorce the Bastard and Move Home!" after my big mouth brothers told my parents what my lord was doing to me! My hatred for my parents is at it's all time high, I really can't stand the fact they did not force me to divorce this piece of shit!
Can I ask for forgiveness for all the lies I told about Ray Franz? Why did we tell lies about a man nobody but the top members of the Governing Body and close friends like Sam Dunlap knew the truth about? We had some crazy people come to visit us from the South, they were at the Assembly they claimed “When Ray was pulled off the stage or had his part taken from him” and our circuit ate that cat-shit story up like hungry hyenas. In Field Service, when a householder would ask us to explain something out of “Crisis of Conscience” with fake authority and ignorance we lied and said “That man is the Devil, he was removed from the Governing Body after going mentally insane! He goes on tv and book tours only to lie about us. (He never went on TV or Book Tours, more theocratic lies we spread with no guilt, lies rolled off our tongues the closer we merged with Satan’s Organization and we both jumped through every hoop judgmental and senile elders asked us to. We wanted so badly to get power, my husband with his low self-esteem, his father and mother abandoning him hated any type of father or mother figure, it was us (Pretty much Me since I had to work while he was in violation of “willful non-support” most of our married life. I worked three jobs at some points while he would take off months from work. My parents would have to lend us money, give us free rent and provide me and him with a car so I could pay off our bills he was racking up. He went crazy and began spending all our money buying gifts for all the elders, circuit overseers and district overseers until we had no money left but a mountain of debt we incurred to buy Jehovah’s Favor! Right before we filed for Bankruptcy, he took the last $300.00 out of the Food Jar and bought two A.T. Cross pens and gave them to the Circuit and District Overseer to show he felt they were “gold plated men in his eyes!” It worked, we had no food and I borrowed more money from my broke parents so we could buy some food. He was made Ministerial Servant three weeks after his gift of book-bags, pens, suits, shoes, and he even mowed some of the elders lawns and waxed their cars. I am working three jobs while he is working the Congregation Scene to get a position, no guilt for Willful Non Support or taking our kids baby formula money and making me beg my parents he taught me to hate for more money and more time to pay rent. Rent was almost two years passed due and we blew their only car up because he did not put oil or water in their car. They had to pay $2,000 to pay for its repair and he asked to use their car again because I had no other transportation to get to all my jobs!
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I read Eric B’s One Year Anniversary Thread since his Spiritual Stoning; I sat back for most of this year while I pondered how I could win you back to the one and only “true religion”. That never worked out because the more I started to follow Eric’s trial and read all the wild and funny postings from highly talented members, I got stuck or you could say I was touched by an Apostate Website, I bitten a chunk off the Red-Pill and the truth about this Cult began to tear my conscience and heart to pieces. My hubris of thinking I could play with fire and not get burned, I badly miscalculated the power of knowledge when a person is experiencing shame and guilt with anxiety, JWN found a chink in my spiritual armor, I should have stopped and popped the entire bottle of Blue-Pills but it was too late, my addiction to Eric’s “My Apostate Trial” was too much even though I knew he had a “snow ball’s chance in Hell for true justice, the JCs are not for justice or truth, they are to squash out any type of personal growth apart from the High Mind Controlled Group. I knew Eric was doomed from listening to details and accounts of JCs and hearing beforehand that my husband had already decided before the first “evidence gatherings” took place. The stories for decades how rigged and cruel and merciless JCs can be unless you have spiritual-political capital or your elders owed you a “quid-pro-quo” favor from years ago.
The strangest part is people here might deny stories I lived through and witnesses the coordinated attacks by elders and female-elders trying to get rid of Les Miserables or undesirable JWs “weak or low-hours, chronic-anxiety or deeply-depressed souls out of our Kingdom Halls. The more I read the stories here, the more I knew I had to share some of the really bad things I saw first-hand. My conscience was freaking out as I popped Xanax and Valium, was I a child doomed for Hell Fire after playing along with JW-Scientologist-Sunburst-Farm Cult methods? My guilt is killing me now, the memories of the most
I need to take time off and figure out how I am going to develop a relationship with Jesus Christ, being part of this Cult is mutually exclusive to being a Christian. The calloused evil and hatred this Petri-Dish Cult breeds is worse than Ebola when it turns on you. Look how many people abandoned Eric and all the other good people on JWN after they pointed to the Nude King's New-Light Clothing. JW Religion is the opposite of thinking, opposite of altruisim, compassion, goodness,kindness,joy, happiness and generous nature to all. What kind of religion will take the life-force from Worldy People (Their Blood) and not give any in return? How can a Jehovah Witness Hemophiliac take "Factor 8 or 9" with any conscience? Why are JWs allowed to take blood fragments from Satan's Worldy Followers and not give anything in return? JWs are the biggest users in the world, they are the most ungrateful, expect Satan's System to support them when they fall ill. I want to do something with my life besides being bitter I was lied to for decades, married a piece of shit who love's his position over everything else in life, even more than Jesus Christ.
I spoke with a Non-Denomination Minister, he said "God might have a plan for you!" I thought, if I divorce my husband I can allow him to blow the busines up and start a competition of his and eat him alive. Lock him in the room for a few days like he did to me all those decades ago!
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List of Circuit Overseers Who Told Me As A Child, "NWT is Most Honest Because It's Not A Dishonest Thought-Translation (Paraphrased Loosely). I Repent, I am Sorry For Lying Now!
by AuntConnie inthe pain of all the lies i am learning about the truth is making me think of moving to a nation where legal euthenesia is allowed.
i take my medicine on a daily basis but it's not working, only so much medication will remove all the decades of guilt, lies being told and human intellect we suffocated by teaching the cult's methods of killing ideas.
i don't deserve anything, lord jesus christ i repent of all my lies and will try to be a better person.
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AuntConnie
Can I have a blue pill too? What do you expect after fifty years a slave to the Watchtower's insane doctrine, finding out in late life I threw my life away? I could have gone to college or not been forced to marry at fifteen years old!