so i haven't studied with this witness since october.
she had taken over when the other could not study with me.
reasons unknown to me other than that she told me her and husband had separated.
I am a nice person in general... maybe too nice. I guess I need to be more straight forward the next time we speak.
Thx for your suggestions Neverknew. I will definitely look into asking her that question. I don't want to bombard her with a million things but at the same time I do want to get my point across. I know she won't change her mind about anything but I just want her to know that I'm not a fool and I don't easily get sucked into religion.
nice to meet you all.
long time lurker, but now i can get my twopenneth in.. a brief history.. born into the religion, but it never really took hold - thankful for an easily bored mind and strong, worldly grandparents.. never very interested - dragged from meeting to field service.
in the teenage years i wanted university and my parents want a pioneer.
It's a good thing that your parents are still there for you! You never know they may change their mind in the future. Don't lost hope!
so i haven't studied with this witness since october.
she had taken over when the other could not study with me.
reasons unknown to me other than that she told me her and husband had separated.
Thx for the responses. I understand what the majority of you are saying. There's no point in trying to reason with her or anybody else I know who is a JW. Now I know how I must handle this. Thx
so i haven't studied with this witness since october.
she had taken over when the other could not study with me.
reasons unknown to me other than that she told me her and husband had separated.
1914 and blood are two subjects I am passionate about. She knows this because I had mentioned to her back in October that both issues are doctrines that the organization has changed their minds about many many times. I did not go into full detail about what I've discovered on my own. Still I think she believes she can make me realize that the organization is the only channel to god.
I want to express to her that I don't believe that it is. I want her to understand that I will never dedicate myself to something that isn't what they say they are. She is an older witness, over 30 yrs. Is not a born in, her husband isn't a witness and she shuns her son because I'm pretty sure he's confronted her with the same info I may tell her. She told me one time that she has no hope for him. I just think its terribly sad but I understand this is how they treat their own flesh and blood thanks to the organization.
She is somebody I've known for quite some time, on and off for about 6 yrs. I was friends with her daughter (playdates with the kids, parties, get togethers) whom doesn't speak with me. Lets just say we have a history. I just feel cutting ties makes more sense to me now. Everybody else wants nothing to do with me since I've stopped studying so what's the point of trying to rationalize with any of them?! They are all stuck in this religion. I am not.
so i haven't studied with this witness since october.
she had taken over when the other could not study with me.
reasons unknown to me other than that she told me her and husband had separated.
So I haven't studied with this witness since October. She had taken over when the other could not study with me. Reasons unknown to me other than that she told me her and husband had separated.
Anyway... This particular witness calls me at least once every two weeks. She had left me previous messages, which I had ignored. I finally talked to her this week since I didn't want to seem like an ass. She apologized to me about some words we had back in October. I told her that she need not apologize since my decision to cease studying had nothing to do with our conversation. She asks me if we could talk and if she can come and visit. All with a pushy attitude so I hesitantly agreed since I do want to reveal to her many of the things that I have learned, researched on my own. I know I need to be prepared when we do meet but at the same time I don't feel ready to face her with all this information. She wants to come and visit next week. Should I have her over or wait till I am fully confident in what I need to tell her? Any advice appreciated. Thanks
an insider at bethel has confirmed that there will be a new book released this summer at the district assemblies.
the society is using some new technology called "current light.
" it allows them to print the book with certain parts in permanant ink (as has been historically used) while other parts of the book have erasable ink.. as i understand it, sentences that begin with words such as "evidently, apparently, obviously, it appears that, likely, clearly, doubtless" and numerous other phrases will be in a slightly different font so that the "current light" sentences can be easily changed when needed.. for example:.
That's hysterical!
this weekend i had the most delicious chicken pie filled with white meat, a few veggies, gravy and the chicken pie had a hard crust, not puff pastry.
yum!
that with a soft wheat roll and butter......
Fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, cheesecake from where else but the Cheesecake Factory!
Anything fried to me is comfort food
i typically gave $$$ to the local kh and seldom gave donations to the society.. i always am amazed how some church going people have very little materially, yet make sure the church and the pastors are well taken care of..
Very little actually but I'm pretty sure those who supplied me with new watchtowers, awakes and other literature including 2 new world translation bibles paid something for it.
how long do you think the watchtower can speak about 1914 and have followers think it relevant?
i think for people born in the 1900's, it feels like an acceptable year.
but what about those born since 2000, will 1914 seem like a year of relevance?
I believe they are running out of time. They've been saying the end is going to come for 100 yrs practically. It's only a matter of time before people really start questioning the "faithful and discreet slave". Still the ones that have been sucked into the religion will never be able to figure it out so they'll continue on doing what they do because there's no where else to go. Truly sad.
well...where do i start.... i was raised in the truth...always knowing that there was nothing better out there besides the wt...however, recently i have a made a determination to not go "anywhere"...in all of my almost 35 years of being part of this "organization" i can honestly say i never read the bible as i do today...my "personal" study of the bible has more meaning today than it ever did...after reading the bible i have found many inconsistencies in the wt organization...i hold no grudges or hard feelings towards anyone in the organization, including the so called governing body...i just believe that human imperfection has taken it's toll on this organization...however, that is no excuse to act as a false prophet or assume things that only belong jehovah and his son...the bible is the truth, and jesus said such truth will set us free...i served as a pioneer all of my youth, and served as a ms...as of today i don't partake in that kind of manmade "service"... i'm truly against monthly time reports, special titles of service, asking for donations, judicial committees, among other things...some people may ask why?...well, none of these things are biblical!...some have told me, well the gb is now the faithful and discreet slave...and i say, as determined by who?...nowhere in my personal reading of the bible does it say that there was or there would ever be a gb...this group of men was self appointed...anything self appointed or self made up is definitely not discreet or faithful...jesus never ever appointed such a group.... a family member of mine passed away 2 years ago...he was never a "witness"...but i did preach to him once in a while so he "knew" about god...he just never wanted to be part of this organization...yet, when he passed away i was told repeatedly by the brothers and resurrection publications that i will see him in paradise... i thought to myself, but jehovah is the only one that determines or says who will resurrect (weather heavenly or earth)...i always thought...we as men are nobody to classify or determine that being part of a certain "organization" is the only way to salvation...jesus never said such thing...yet some may say that jehovah has always used an organization giving an moses and the israelite "organization" as an example...but then i say, well jesus is the end of the old covenant...we don't need an organization to be our mediator between us and the true god...jesus is the only mediator.... i could just say so many other things, but i felt like sharing this with all of you...as i cannot share this with any family members or brothers since i would be considered an apostate...i truly believe god is the only judge and i will hold myself accountable to him and no one else.... thanks for reading.... .
It's nice to see more and more JW's are open to learning TTATT. It's sad that you can't be open to your family and friends but still this is a great place to come to when your having those so called "apostate" feelings that JW's warn against.
