i have been reading threads about how the rbc operates, so i sort of have a fair idea of what the answers will be.
but i would like to have a more direct answer to my questions.. where do the orders come from that a hall is in need of a remodel, or a new one to be built.. can the elders refuse a remodel or quickly built.. out side contractors are only allowed with rbc approval.
what are the consequences if say a kh needed a new roof, and secular contractor was hired.. is it a case that orders a given that a hall needs a remodel, and that the rbc will have total control, and look out for who ever gets in the way, and elders just have to simply comply.. this is the question i most want answered.
The whole RBC is essentially run by a bunch of nobody douchebags with Napoleon complexes...
Sounds like a former New Jersey guy who is in the Nebraska RBC last I heard. Goes by the handle of Frank S. What a pompous ass. I heard through friends up north that his wife shot-gunned herself into the "New World". Can't say as I blame her from what I heard about him!
in revelation 20: 2-3 it says jesus throws satan into the abyss for 1,000 years.
the wt said this about where the demons will be:.
*** w04 11/15 p. 30 questions from readers ***.
In Revelation 20: 2-3 it says Jesus throws Satan into the abyss for 1,000 years. The WT said this about where the demons will be:
*** w04 11/15 p. 30 Questions From Readers ***
Where will the demons be during the Thousand Year Reign of Christ?
The Bible does not explicitly answer this question. However, we can come to a logical conclusion about where the demons will. . . . These verses speak only of the abyssing of Satan. . . the demons are not mentioned, it stands to reason that. . . the glorified Jesus Christ. . . will do the same with the demons. . .
Is it possible, though, that Revelation 20:1-3 does not mention the demons because they are destroyed at Armageddon along with the visible part of Satan’s seed? The Bible renders this possibility unlikely.
Now here is where the reasoning gets pretty.....ahem....."logical".
Concerning Satan’s final destiny, it states: “The Devil who was misleading them was hurled into the lake of fire and sulphur, where both the wild beast and the false prophet already were;
Had the more powerful invisible spirit part of Satan’s seed been destroyed at Armageddon, the demons would surely have been mentioned as already being in that symbolic lake along with the wild beast and the false prophet. Their absence at Revelation 20:10 indicates that the demons are not destroyed at Armageddon. Revelation 20:1-3 speaks only of Satan’s being seized and hurled into the abyss of inactivity, we can logically conclude that his angels too will be bound and abyssed.
So there it is. Great "logical" reasoning. . . again.On the one hand because they are not specifically mentioned they are included with Satan, and on the other hand because they are not specifically mentioned they CANNOT be included. So which is it?
OT a bit: Posted above German concentration camps.
"Arbeit Macht Frei" ("Work makes you free). Of course it was an attempt to calm the fears of the Jews and others who entered there so that they wouldn't realize that they were about to be executed.
because: Jesus, as recorded in John 8:31,32: "--the truth will set you free--" and WT wants to keep it's slave slaving.
Perhaps a new slogan for the WTB&T$ instead of the "Read God's Word The Bible Daily" should be:
FREEDOM THROUGH SLAVERY.
todays' wt had this sentence in one of the paragraphs....we know this because each of their individual names are indelibly written upon the 12 foundation stones of the heavenly new jerusalem.rev.
21:14.. the cross reference lists judas iscariot as one of the twelve.
so with one breath they have said judas was cursed as jesus betrayer, and yet in their rnwt they still cross reference him in the list of the twelve named foundation stones of nj.
Yes, I saw the word "faithful", and left it out intentionally.
That is why Judas Iscariot, not to be confused with the other Judas, is said to have been judged worthy of the "second death". However, the choice by lots of Matthias raises some questions. Did the apostles pray before casting lots? If so does that indicate that HS was involved? If God's HS was involved then why the need to choose Saul? Did HS make a mistake, like in the appointment of some eldurrs today? If there are only twelve foundation stones which of the thirteen faithful apostles is thrown to the curb? It seems to me that every time the WTB&T$ says one thing it raises three or four more questions.
As to the generation cross reference it is (Matthew 23: 36). . . "Truly I say to YOU, All these things will come upon this generation."
The cross reference is to (Exodus 20:5). . .You must not bow down to them nor be induced to serve them, because I Jehovah your God am a God exacting exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers (ONE generation) upon sons (SECOND generation), upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation, in the case of those who hate me. . .
That indicated in their NWT that a generation was exactly that ONE generation. In their RNWT that cross reference has been deleted. Can't have intelligent, thinking people finding that, now can they? Soon it will be forgotten and the new two overlapping, soon to be three generation explanation will be all that will be known.
todays' wt had this sentence in one of the paragraphs....we know this because each of their individual names are indelibly written upon the 12 foundation stones of the heavenly new jerusalem.rev.
21:14.. the cross reference lists judas iscariot as one of the twelve.
so with one breath they have said judas was cursed as jesus betrayer, and yet in their rnwt they still cross reference him in the list of the twelve named foundation stones of nj.
Todays' WT had this sentence in one of the paragraphs....We know this because each of their individual names are indelibly written upon the 12 foundation stones of the heavenly New Jerusalem.—Rev. 21:14.
The cross reference lists Judas Iscariot as one of the twelve. So with one breath they have said Judas was cursed as Jesus betrayer, and yet in their RNWT they still cross reference him in the list of the twelve named foundation stones of NJ. I wonder why they couldn't figure out to delete those cross references when they so carefully removed any references to the term "generation" when Jesus was asked when the end would come. Those references indicated the life span of ONE person being a generation. Not the current two, or even three generations as being only "one" gigantic, overlapping, centuries long generation as the newest WT is setting everyone up for.
if a brother wants to reach out to be elder, yet brothers are holding him back for dubious reasons, can/should a brother approach the co and ask him what he needs to be done to be appointed or perhaps having a discussion along the lines of why the elders are holding him unfairly back.
anybody have any experiences along these lines?
is this a good strategy?
Some years ago when I still shave a git about being "appointed" a CO took me aside and asked why after nearly twenty years in the same town I wasn't. He told me to ask the eldurrs every few months what I must change to fit their mold. Didn't do a damned bit of good. The eldurrs had a hard-on for me because I won't carry water for them. Next time around he told me I had to much upper lip hair. Wanted it trimmed in a true Hitler style I guess. I didn't! Everyone else had cut theirs off entirely. Bunch of spineless puhzies!
this is from the questions from readers in the 12/15/61 watchtower.
i present it unabridged and without comment.
your own comments, however, are welcome.. "when a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind.
If we humans would take a lesson from these creatures, we would learn something of importance in matters of sex, as to its purpose and the results of its operation.
Well I sure know that there are some pretty fine "sisters" who seem to be less than content. So I would volunteer to help them be contented.
i have been told that the cost to build a new kingdom hall is $500k +.
i have a background in commercial construction and this seems pretty high to me, considering all the free labor.
that is just the cost of the building, excluding the lot price.
I remember helping one hall get its sound equipment, even the cables had to be from the official supplier, they were literally 5x the price.
One I know of recently spent nearly $65,000.00 on a remodel. This for a KH that usually only has 35-40 in attendance, most of whom are very elderly, infirm, or in some other way living on the public dole. But the BOE can brag about how "beautiful" their KH is from one side of their mouth while begging for increased money contributions from the other. Disgraceful!
i have been told that the cost to build a new kingdom hall is $500k +.
i have a background in commercial construction and this seems pretty high to me, considering all the free labor.
that is just the cost of the building, excluding the lot price.
Just heard of a KH that has finally rammed through approval to build an added on mirror copy. I have heard the locals talking about how it is going to cost $750,000.00 just for the fire suppression sprinkler system. Then the cost of the building will be on top of that. Of course you could make book on the fact that it will not be a modest building, or modestly furnished....gotta keep ahead of the joneses...so to speak. Oh well the poor welfare R&F can eat a little less I am sure.
during a disciplinary procedure, what would the response be if you wanted representation?
an advocate?.
why don't they have a group of unbiased men, a prosecutor to present the case against you and an advocate that would represent the accused?
I my case many years ago it was the complaint of the vindictive daughter of a so-called jw woman I knew. While she had no clue, the accusation was just what the chief hounder and his cohorts needed to latch on to the reason to df me. Her accusation was a blatant lie, but the hounder's believed that her mother and I had "fornicated". One of the secondary hounder's punk-ass son came forward as the second "witness" saying that he had seen me without a shirt on when in the presence of the woman! Of course the two hounder's were pissed off that I had called out their idiot, drunken, drug addled MS sons.
I refused to admit to sins I had not committed. I could not feel "remorse" for something that had not happened. So on the grounds of "unrepentance" I was booted in short order. Later for the sake of my immediate family I attempted reinstatement. They claimed that as long as I didn't copy their clothing styles I was trying to be independent, and refused to RI me. Eventually I managed to get back "in", and as I said in an earlier post I take pleasure in occupying a chair in the KH and being a thorn in their sides merely by being there.
