Posts by Rattigan350

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Convention Releases by Year

by jgnat in

i went looking for convention releases by year and i did not find a handy source.

so i've started one.

help me complete it, my friends.

Rattigan350

What is telling is that since the 1990s, not only has the program cover changed to monocolor and bland, but the format of the program stays the same but the theme changes.

And when the above site was started around 2006 there were many audio programs listed from various conventions, but since 2009 announcement about recording the DC for private use only, sharing must have gone down as people must be obedient to the direction of the FDS. The reality is that if people are able to download the conventions and assemblies then they won't see the need to go, then if they don't go, they won't be walking by the contribution boxes and feel the urge to put something in.

They are going through the same problem that the RIAA had with file sharing. They are trying to get a new business model to where they can sell their info.

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A Different View of "Peace and Security"

by Bobcat in

since the wt this week has the prediction of a "peace and security" event, i thought i would include a comment from the new american commentary (nac, d. michael martin, pp.159-60) on 1 thessalonians 5:2, 3.. here is the wt's position, according to this week's wt study (sep 2012 study edition, pp.3 4):.

1 th 5:2, 3 is a "future development.".

it happens "just before that day of jehovah.".

Rattigan350

There is no fricken cry or declaration of peace and security. The WTS has been getting that wrong over the years.

They just like generating excitement for scripture.

What Paul meant was that the events would be unexpected. That is why he said it would be like a thief in the night.

He got his analogy from Babylon surrounding Jerusalem, then leaving for Egypt then coming back and destroying Jerusalem.

Paul was reflecting on the past. People don't understand that Paul was not a prophet, he was not inspired to tell the future.

So what difference does it make what he says. He is just a guy who studied Israel history.

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Ignorant Judgemental CO's and DO's

by Scully in

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badwillie wrote the following experience about an ignorant comment from a do:.

case in point:.

a friend received a full scholarship from a local college to study to become a veternarian.

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Anybody ever encounter a younger guy named Campanga

He served Minnesota back around 2006

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The Watchtower Study At A Glance. What's "Christian Activity"?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

january 13, 213 magazine focus is avoding anything that could lessen your "christian activity".

what is christian activity used in every other paragraph?

witnesses are told in a subtle way, if their jobs are high paying they probably are not doing things jehovah's ways.

Rattigan350

It's just a rehash of the Saturday Afternoon symposium from the 2010 DC.

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Former Jehovah's Witnesses, will Jesus destroy all JW's when he comes to the Earth?

by Change Name in

what do you believe happens when one of jehovah's witnesses dies?

do they go to hell?.

if you do not respond, does it mean that you are only looking to discredit and bash the jw's?.

Rattigan350

The title is wrong as Jesus is not coming to the earth.

And everyone goes to hell at death.

JWs do not deny Jesus and no one is burning in hell.

And why do people get stuck on this Jesus not being mediator thing?

The non-anointed don't need him as a mediator as nothing is mediated.

Adn the bread and wine were only for the 11 with him.

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4 years ago: the CO opinion about memorial invitation

by Gorbatchov in

4 years ago the co in our congregation turned down in the most direct manner the invitation for the memorial by internet.. brothers who say "we can invite the public for the memorial by internet" are apostates, they are acting against the brothers of christ.. today the wts invites every one by using jw.org.. the next time i see this co, i will confront him with his idiot verdict.

.

Rattigan350

The public shouldn't be invited because Jesus only told that to his 11 faithful disciples, not the public.

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The real problem with Watchtower.

by Rattigan350 in

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a topic on here about 1975 prompted me to write about how, for me, that is and never was or will be an issue.. also, the 144,000 and 'two classes' with memorial partaking, and child abuse are not issues with this religion.

everyone has their unique teachings and personnel problems.. the real problem with this religion was highlighted in the 2008 yearbook.

it gave a story of a young woman who was from estonia who was on the equivalent of american idol for estonia.

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Billy said " JW teachings have poisoned her to accepting the idea that Jesus is the only mediator between God and humans, thinking that she must obey this corporation because they claim to be channelling god. She feels that it's important to blindly accept whatever is in the lastest WT ragazine because it's coming from god... but there is a crack in that dam."

My wife is like that but I don't think it has to do with mediatorship or 144,000. Many like her are like the Nazi's; obedient by just following orders,without thinking or questiong. The obedience is what is valued.

And Juan said;"The Watchtower's prejudice against education, self-expression, and personal growth may be a major contributor to the organization's own lack of growth and internal problems. Imagine if the Watchtower could point to the thousands of members who became engineers, educators, journalists, scientists, and sports stars who are/were Jehovah's Witnesses. They could show the world how truly blessed Witnesses have been by Jehovah. "

Bingo. Couldn't have said it better myself. I just don't see how I can sell or advocate this religion that has nothing to offer but stunted growth.

While watching the Oscars I thought of how people can be that some day, but not us. Prince was a presenter for the Grammys, but that is an oddity. He was famous before he became a Witness.

Things are even so bad that I know of a brother that played piano at the assembly hall, but then the DO wanted all music to be recorded from the Society.

"But no, the leaders want the R&F to basically live meaningless and non-expansive live"

In the slave days, the owners denied the slaves an education because if they had no other options in life, they had to stay where they were as slaves and be happy with that. If they had aspirations and ambition to escape they would do so, hurting the owners. So the owners keep the slaves dumb to keep them slaves. Tobacco pickers, invitation distributors. Neither takes skills. Those with skills would would choose to do neither.

Who is our modern day Lincoln?

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The real problem with Watchtower.

by Rattigan350 in

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friends

a topic on here about 1975 prompted me to write about how, for me, that is and never was or will be an issue.. also, the 144,000 and 'two classes' with memorial partaking, and child abuse are not issues with this religion.

everyone has their unique teachings and personnel problems.. the real problem with this religion was highlighted in the 2008 yearbook.

it gave a story of a young woman who was from estonia who was on the equivalent of american idol for estonia.

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Data dog said "Adressing all those other issues are necessary IMO". True.

I was highlighting what Nice dreams said in how people are so proud of what they gave up as that is taught. There is nothing taught about prophesies or abuse and no one is proud of that.

Mormons and many in other denominations encourage and talk about what people are accomplishing. What do JWs talk about? How's the congregation. Who is pioneering, how is the pioneering, the studies, what's new from the FDS? Nothing about the person. Nothing said about one's golf game or batting average, etc, or GPA.

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When Was The Last Time "The Friends" Checked Up On You? Spiritual or Social Visit?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

i know of two couples who left the congregation i faded from, they two have never received a shepherding call, i was usually the one who came by with food or offered to help clean their homes.

most of you are beyond this like i am, this goes to the new members arriving here who might think the "friends" are coming to check up on them.

the elders in my former hall were too much into drinking and eating, average body weight was 265lbs with pumpkin shaped bodies.

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I get visits when the elders get letters about me from the Society.

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2013 DC new releases - rumors ???

by obarac in

there is rumors that in this years dc nwt will be released and also new tracts.

any other rumors about new releases?.

Rattigan350

Since there is nothing wrong with the NWT, and contrary to what some wrote above, that is not what is wrong with the religion as the doctrines based on the NWT are sound.

An updated Reasoning book would be reasonable.