Rattigan350
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More education bashing in April 2015 simplified watchtower
by hoser inelders in wealthy lands may find it difficult to encourage baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to do more in the congregation.
ex- perienced elders in about 20 lands told us why they believe that some young brothers do not do more in the congregation.
most of them said that when some brothers were young, their parents did not encour- age them to set goals in jehovahs ser- vice.
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Rattigan350
Not only that but they get penalized by Obamacare for not having insurance. I imagine that many will try to declare themselves exempt because of religion or too poor. -
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American Sniper - courage or cowardice?
by Simon inthe movie american sniper is breaking box office records and of course there is some irony that a movie about a sniper is released on martin luther king day (who was shot by one).. but of course there is a world of difference between an assassin and a military sniper ... or is there?.
some are making a big stink about it and claiming that "snipers are cowards".
it seems unfair to me.
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Rattigan350
If it is not hand to hand combat, it is cowardice.
Unless a light saber is involved.
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Did you skip the meeting to watch the superbowl ?
by av8orntexas ini know we must have alot ofpeople on here huge football fans like myself.
born and raised in boston, i am a huge sports fan, and of course patriots fan.
so anyone here go to another meeting, makeup some bs excuse, illness, flat out miss the meeting or anything else to watch game if your meeting happened to go from the 9am to the 3pm in january ?.
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Rattigan350
A few years ago we had a Circuit assembly on Super bowl Sunday. The DO mentioned it in his parts about people leaving early for the game. Everyone around here has parties. -
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Watchtower has a Philosophy of Totalism
by OnTheWayOut incults tend to have a total explanation for everything- everything that ever happened, everything that is happening now, and everything that ever will happen.
that certainly fits watchtower.
they have a black-and-white perception of everything, they are never wrong, there are no gray areas.
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Rattigan350
Only the Sith believe in absolutes.
This just shows how fake everyone is and is encouraged to be. People can't display their real feelings for fear of being judged. Married couples are fake to each other, children towards parents, etc.
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Counting service time in a creative way
by nevaagain incouting time and, how to count time while doing as little service as possible is often a hot topic around witnesses.
i even overheard pioneers discussing about it.
they call it "creative time counting" (i translated that phrase from a different language so bear with me ;-).
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Rattigan350
This all goes back to the days when there was a pioneer discount on the books and meal tickets. Pioneers had to count that time and do it properly to make sure that they earned that discount.
There has been no pioneer discount since 1989 but people still think they need to earn it.
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A quick summary of topics and issues wrong with jws
by stuckinarut2 inyou know how our minds often get all "fuzzy" and confused when we are put on the spot and asked to come up with points?
we often tend to lose focus and go off on tangents?.
im trying to compile a basic list of bullet points for the most obvious and clear problems / doctrines / history of witnesses that can blow the org out of the water.. it is more for the purpose of getting my own thoughts clear rather than using it to talk to witnesses (as that doesn't really work).
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Rattigan350
Those things listed are not things wrong with jws. They are things that past leaders did. The past is the past.
Stick with current things such as mental manipulation and ruling by fear in order to get people to become dependant and addicted to ultimately get the money.
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The best argument that we have an immaterial part (called Spirit/Soul) came from Jesus Christ
by abiather inthe best argument that we have an immaterial part (called spirit/soul) came from jesus christ.
however, it is recorded in the gospel of thomas (not in the traditional four gospels).
jesus says: if the flesh came into existence because of the spirit, it is a marvel.
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Rattigan350
Is that the best that can be done? A quote from a non-canon book?
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Counting service time in a creative way
by nevaagain incouting time and, how to count time while doing as little service as possible is often a hot topic around witnesses.
i even overheard pioneers discussing about it.
they call it "creative time counting" (i translated that phrase from a different language so bear with me ;-).
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Where is Charles Sinutko now?
by moggy lover indoes anyone have any news about charles sinutko, who give the infamous "stay alive till '75" talk?
forty years have passed since then, so is he still alive and still with the watchtower?
anyone heard anything?.
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Rattigan350
Honesty: That info is wrong. He did not die in 2003. He gave talks after that. -
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Who is your favorite "Apostate"? Who helped you see the truth about "The Truth"?
by minimus ini would have to say that ray franz was the biggest influence for me.. when i first got on this board, a poster by the name of james, a former bethelite and organization heavy, helped me understand a lot of the inner workings in the upper echelons of the society.. .
and of course, farkel's common sense approach was (usually) helpful..
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Rattigan350
Some mentioned John Ankerberg and Walter Martin. I met John 28 years ago. I didn't agree with him because he promotes Baptistism and the trinity. I'm still against Christendom and these Bible debates and ping pong. I don't see how that can help someone see the truth about the truth, that just promotes arguments about scripture and drives one more towards JWs because Baptists twists scripture more.