Posts by Rattigan350

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NAILING DOWN the fraud of John 1:1 by demonstration

by TerryWalstrom in

call me crazy, but i love to watch seminary classes when sharp teachers are in charge of the instruction.. in the following video, the teacher really nails jehovah's witnesses on john 1:1 with utter simplicity.. begin at 1 hour and 20 minutes in.. i've never seen or heard of this before.. .

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_5qkj7tmbg.

Rattigan350

I don't see your point. JWs are right about this. There is no trinity and Jesus is not Jehovah. That is simplicity.

The 'theos' in John 1:1 is functioning as an adjective describing how the Logos was a spirit being, not declaring it as the supreme being.

There has been so much added and we don't know what is real. Matt 28:19,20 with Father, son and Holy spirit was added because Jesus never taught such a thing. If it is that important of an issue, than God, Jesus and everyone should have made it more clear.

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EXPERTS ONLY! A Pop Quiz on (current) Watchtower teaching

by TerryWalstrom in

pop quiz on jw (current) teaching.

1. was jesus 2nd coming in 1914?.

2. is jesus 2nd (parousia) presence the same thing as his coming?.

Rattigan350

1. I don't see where Jesus was supposed to ever have a second coming. So no. But he did become king of the messianic kingdom in 1914.

2. Since there is no "coming", it is not.

3. It is the same as the Catholic's "on this rock" doctrine. Something used to gain and hold power.

4. No one knows.

5. yes, the gentile times ended in 1914. 2520 years after they started in 607bce.

6. We will see.

7. yes

8.why should the anointed read it?

9. No one knows.

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Magazine Routes March KM

by Rattigan350 in

improving our skills in the ministrydeveloping a magazine route.

what does delivering magazines have to do with skills in a ministry?.

"many people who enjoy reading our magazines do not wish to study the bible with us.".

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Improving Our Skills in the Ministry—Developing a Magazine Route

What does delivering magazines have to do with skills in a ministry?

"Many people who enjoy reading our magazines do not wish to study the Bible with us."

Really? How many?

"Try This During theMonth: Make a list of those who could be on a magazine route. Offer them the current issues of the magazines, and tell them that you will bring them the next issue."

Brainless ministry

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What could you have been if you were never a JW?

by minimus in

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friends

oh, the possibilities!

there is a lot of wasted talent.

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Happy.

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A Rigged Game

by The Searcher in

when i was a young teenager, i went to london for a big convention.. while sightseeing in the centre of london, my friend and i stopped to watch a guy offering people the chance to win easy money - simply by picking the correct playing card out of three which he put on a little table.

he called it, "find the lady".

(aka 3 card monte) never having seen it before, i thought this was so easy to win money, but as an unbaptized witness, gambling was wrong, so i didn't participate.. on returning home after the convention ended, i related this experience to my non-witness dad.

Rattigan350

How is the card game rigged and how can we win?

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Field Service Reports Count More than Showing Love - Ray Franz CF Book

by flipper in

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i've always suspected this was the wt society's view when i was in the jehovah's witness organization - but never knew the head of the writing committee karl adams had written a letter to nathan knorr ( then wt president ) recommending a change regarding reporting field service time as it wrongly emphasized jw members being seen as mainly being approved due to field service statistics - instead of emphasizing christian qualities of love, kindness, peace, etc.. karl adams had been personally handpicked by nathan knorr to be the head of the writing department.

in 1971 he wrote a letter to knorr which he wanted shared with the entire governing body as well .

i'll share the main parts of that letter.. on pg.

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" I'll just put 10 hours, 6 mags, and 2 rv on my slip at the end of the month and leave it at that."

I would do that at the beginning of the month, just to see if they would notice.

The fact that they only care about the CO and stats shows from when I stopped going out in FS and turning in FSR. Several months later the Secretary said to me that he didn't have my reports for several months, and he said that he knew that I had been out as he saw me. I just made up numbers for him since he was nice about it.

He saw me when I wasn't out but they don't see me when I am. just numbers for the CO.

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More education bashing in April 2015 simplified watchtower

by hoser in

elders in wealthy lands may find it difficult to encourage baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to do more in the congregation.

ex- perienced elders in about 20 lands told us why they believe that some young brothers do not do more in the congregation.

most of them said that when some brothers were young, their parents did not encour- age them to set goals in jehovahs ser- vice.

Rattigan350

Not only that but they get penalized by Obamacare for not having insurance. I imagine that many will try to declare themselves exempt because of religion or too poor.

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American Sniper - courage or cowardice?

by Simon in

the movie american sniper is breaking box office records and of course there is some irony that a movie about a sniper is released on martin luther king day (who was shot by one).. but of course there is a world of difference between an assassin and a military sniper ... or is there?.

some are making a big stink about it and claiming that "snipers are cowards".

it seems unfair to me.

Rattigan350

If it is not hand to hand combat, it is cowardice.

Unless a light saber is involved.

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Did you skip the meeting to watch the superbowl ?

by av8orntexas in

i know we must have alot ofpeople on here huge football fans like myself.

born and raised in boston, i am a huge sports fan, and of course patriots fan.

so anyone here go to another meeting, makeup some bs excuse, illness, flat out miss the meeting or anything else to watch game if your meeting happened to go from the 9am to the 3pm in january ?.

Rattigan350

A few years ago we had a Circuit assembly on Super bowl Sunday. The DO mentioned it in his parts about people leaving early for the game. Everyone around here has parties.

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Watchtower has a Philosophy of Totalism

by OnTheWayOut in

cults tend to have a total explanation for everything- everything that ever happened, everything that is happening now, and everything that ever will happen.

that certainly fits watchtower.

they have a black-and-white perception of everything, they are never wrong, there are no gray areas.

Rattigan350

Only the Sith believe in absolutes.

This just shows how fake everyone is and is encouraged to be. People can't display their real feelings for fear of being judged. Married couples are fake to each other, children towards parents, etc.