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  Please explain!

  by Freedom rocks in

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  hi please can someone explain this in laymans terms for me coz i be ever got it as a jw and still don't.

  it doesn't make sense to me.

  bible chronology indicates that god’s kingdom was established in heaven in 1914. this is shown by a prophecy recorded in chapter 4 of the bible book of daniel.. overview of the prophecy.

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  Easy explanation.

  Jehovah told David in 2 Samuel 7:12-14 that he would establish his kingdom and his descendants forever.

  That lead down to Jesus or was supposed to. But Jesus didn't become king. So what happened?

  In Dan 4 it was put on pause, for 7 times, 2520 years from 607 to 1914.
  

  The kings were sitting on Jehovah's throne and he was sovereign. So when they stopped being sovereign, it was paused. That was in the 3rd year of Jehoiakim which was in 607 as Jerusalem was destroyed in 587.
  

  Note anything that requires Jerusalem to be destroyed in 607 is wrong, because the prophesy was not about Jerusalem, it was about the kings in the line of David being sovereign.

  It all makes sense when you understand it, which it does not sound like you do.
  
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  Who deserves the title of king of apostasy ?

  by Chook in

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  i think this would be a noble endeavour..

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  In the 80s it was Randall Watters and David Reed.

  In the 90s it was Kent Steinhaug, Paul Blizzard
  

  Since then it was the individuals on the various websites such as Danny Haszard, and ones who are behind jwfacts, and this site.
  
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  Jehovah Witness family murder suicide

  by wannaexit in

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  2. friends

  so sad!!!!!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbj0sivgdke&feature=youtu.be.

  http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2018/02/16/4-dead-keego-harbor-murder-suicide/345756002/.

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  Why would the murder-suicide be because of shunning from 5 years ago? And how does the woman and others tie it do that?

  "According to Taylor, Lauren Stuart and Daniel Stuart, 47, wanted to send their children to college, but the religion forbids that. They did so anyway. "

  The religion does not forbid that. And why would that lead to disfellowshipping? Why would anyone in the religion even know where one goes to school?
  
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  $5.5 Million to be transferred to World Wide Work from Assembly Hall fund

  by Sour Grapes in

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  a letter was read tonight in our kingdom hall that the money that the circuits in the indianapolis area had in savings to build a new assembly hall will now be transferred to the www to build kingdom halls in lands where they are needed and a new assembly hall for us will not be built.. we had a beautiful assembly hall near downtown indy that was paid for.

  it was sold a couple of years ago.

  we were promised a new assembly hall to be built in southern ohio near the indiana border but they can kiss that goodbye now.

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  This same thing happened with planned assembly hall for Rome Georgia. In around 2012 they were collecting fund and even had separate boxes for that, to collect funds for it. There were letters posted about how much was collected, around several million. Then in early 2013 a letter was read stating that the project was cancelled and the funds collected would go to the WWW.
  
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  Women must not instruct men, even by singing a theocratic song.

  by Ultimate Axiom in

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  i did a quick search and this doesn’t appear to have been commented on here, but if it has been, i apologise in advance for starting an unnecessary thread.. regarding a change to a song title, the study article on page 7 paragraph 17 of november 2017 watchtower explained, “the change of the title “guard your heart” to “we guard our hearts” was most considerate.

  in the audience at our meetings, assemblies, and conventions are many new ones, interested ones, young ones, and sisters who by singing the words would be put in the awkward position of telling others what to do.

  so the title and the lyrics were modified.”.

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  I thought this was Christianity, not Paulianity. Why so much following of what Paul said?
  
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  CO's talk on loyalty

  by Rattigan350 in

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  the circuit overseer this week on tuesday gave a talk on loyalty to jehovah.

  i listed 5 points.

  i only remember 3.. one was the typical association with disfellowshipped relatives, the next was loyalty to friends over jehovah by not reporting wrongdoing to elders.

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  The Circuit Overseer this week on Tuesday gave a talk on loyalty to Jehovah. I listed 5 points. I only remember 3.

  One was the typical association with disfellowshipped relatives, the next was loyalty to friends over Jehovah by not reporting wrongdoing to elders.

  That one that I am highlighting here was when spoke of loyalty to marriage mates. He spoke of when couples had children the children splits the attention of the couple, which is true and unavoidable. He also spoke of couples going on vacations with other couples. The men would do things like going golfing and the women would go shopping which isn't good for the couples. Which he is right.
  

  But I was thinking that maybe his motive for discouraging couples vacationing together is to discouraging couples from sharing each other with the other couples and I don't mean men golfing and women shopping. He just wouldn't want to say that there may have been reports of mates sharing each other.
  
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  Silly Bible Stories we once believed

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  these bible stories are too silly to be true.

  take off your rose colored glasses and you will begin to see some great imagination, exaggeration and great story telling!.

  telling !.

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  "Earth created first and then the stars and the heavens" That's not what the Bible says.
  
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  Did You Go To Meetings in Very Inclement Weather?

  by minimus in

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  living in new england means having lots of snow and cold.

  elders were very reluctant to cancel or reschedule a meeting due to the weather.

  i lived 3 towns away from the kingdom hall and if it was icy and treacherous my vote would always be to cancel the meeting....and forget about rescheduling!.

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  I remember pioneering in inclement weather. The hope was that the people would feel sorry for us and invite us in for coffee or cocoa. Now, I can't believe I did that.
  
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  Avoiding Service Tips?

  by Kohanic in

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  back again!.

  so as i'm still pimo and living under my parent's roof, how can i get out of service?

  cause i really don't want to go and i feel dirty just knowing i could be influencing someone into this garbage..

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  Just say that you have all your time for the month and have to get things done to prepare for next month; even if it is January 3rd.
  
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  Analysis of 2017 vs 2016 Yearbook reports for Europe

  by Splash in

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  so these countries roughly constitute europe.. here's how well they did in 2017 vs 2016:.

  2017 peak pubs.

  2016 peak pubs.

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  I noticed the decrease in congregations in the USA. We were visiting a congregation a few weeks ago that 2 years ago had 2 congregations but when we got there I learned that they were consolidated to one with publishers sent to other local congregations.

  As for publisher numbers, there may be many, such as the ones on here who turn in a field service slip (to not stand out) but don't do any real service.