Posts by Rattigan350

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Do old time present day active JW`s genuinely believe in overlapping generations ?

by smiddy3 in

for the life of me i can not come to terms with old timers in the "truth" who could swallow this interpretation of scripture about an overlapping generation .. when jesus spoke about "this generation" .

are their any real bible students among younger ones any more ?.

here are 3 bible scriptures that confirm a generation is approximately 40- 50 years long give or take a few years .. 1. matt:1 :17 abraham born 2016-18 bc jesus born 2 bc approx.

Rattigan350

Sea Breeze said: "JW's start with a belief paradigm. This is their worldview, their lens by which they interpret all data they experience:

1. They alone have the truth

2. Their experts have it all figured out

3. Jesus already returned invisibly

4. The church age (Gentile Times) has already ended; and with that so has the offer for immortality by faith alone. Now, everyone has to work for it by accepting the framework worked out by the F&DS asks."

I say you are wrong.

1. JWs say they have the truth because there is only one truth from the beginning. From Gen 1:1 to the Israelites and the Law and the temple, there was one truth. Jesus nullified the Law and the temple, but there was still one truth. Then for centuries the truth got contaminated and diluted. But JWs had the intent of seeking that truth of Jesus. No one else has tried or done that.

2. As to 'their experts'. If it weren't for the case of building and supporting a religion, the ones involved have always focused on God, not the people.

3. Jesus has not returned invisibly. He has taken the throne in heaven invisible to human eyes in 1914. The throne of David became heavenly.

4. The Gentile times is not the church age. That is the time period from when the rulership on the throne of God was not occupied by a sovereign ruler in the line of David. From 607 when King Jehoiakim was made a vassel until Jesus became king in 1914. So many people in and out of the organization don't understand that.

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Are there any get togethers in Georgia coming up soon?

by KimD in

i would love to meet up with my ga peeps and anyone that would love to come.

are there any get togethers in ga. coming up soon?.

Rattigan350

Check your PMs and we can get one going.

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Do old time present day active JW`s genuinely believe in overlapping generations ?

by smiddy3 in

for the life of me i can not come to terms with old timers in the "truth" who could swallow this interpretation of scripture about an overlapping generation .. when jesus spoke about "this generation" .

are their any real bible students among younger ones any more ?.

here are 3 bible scriptures that confirm a generation is approximately 40- 50 years long give or take a few years .. 1. matt:1 :17 abraham born 2016-18 bc jesus born 2 bc approx.

Rattigan350

I don't understand why it eve matters what Jesus said. It was just a phrase he once used. If he wanted it to mean something he would have explained it. Like the "in the name of the father, son holy spirit'. If Jesus said that (which I don't believe he did), he would have explained it. But are people making more of that than the generation?

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Do old time present day active JW`s genuinely believe in overlapping generations ?

by smiddy3 in

for the life of me i can not come to terms with old timers in the "truth" who could swallow this interpretation of scripture about an overlapping generation .. when jesus spoke about "this generation" .

are their any real bible students among younger ones any more ?.

here are 3 bible scriptures that confirm a generation is approximately 40- 50 years long give or take a few years .. 1. matt:1 :17 abraham born 2016-18 bc jesus born 2 bc approx.

Rattigan350

Actually the overlapping generation makes sense.

A generation is not a length.

And consider that they are spot on with the the "prophesy of iron and clay" pointing to Trump.

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More speculation on Kingdom Hall closers and money grabbing?

by Crazyguy in

there continues to be more and more rumors of more halls being sold off some even taking the first offer.

the borg trying to get thier bond money back from the court in san diego asap and there's been elders meetings about this consolidation.

my questions is why after selling off all this real estate in new york for over a billion dollars are they still acting like thier broke?

Rattigan350

Brokeback, what does that have to do what the topic or what I said?

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Who Resurrected Jesus?

by snakeface in

one of the heresies of the wt is denying the divinity of christ.

during this "memorial season" they say that jehovah (god the father?

) resurrected jesus.

Rattigan350

There is only one God and his name is Jehovah.

And no one is claiming that Jesus raised himself from the dead... because he was dead. Thus someone else would need to raise him. If he could raise himself he would not be dead.

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Who Resurrected Jesus?

by snakeface in

one of the heresies of the wt is denying the divinity of christ.

during this "memorial season" they say that jehovah (god the father?

) resurrected jesus.

Rattigan350

Jehovah God resurrected Jesus. Jesus is only more powerful than death because he did not sin. That gives him the right and ability to live again and be raised by Jehovah God. It is pretty simple in fact.

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Kingdom Hall Sell-Offs - 2 Defunct Phrases Now

by The Searcher in

1) when a newly built k.h.

is dedicated, the sheep are told that the building "will be a great witness for jehovah.

the opposite must now be true - when they get rid of it to accumulate cash, they must now be "un-witnessing for jehovah.".

Rattigan350

In one state over the past 20 years there is a net loss of 60 Kingdom Halls and more congregations.

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More speculation on Kingdom Hall closers and money grabbing?

by Crazyguy in

there continues to be more and more rumors of more halls being sold off some even taking the first offer.

the borg trying to get thier bond money back from the court in san diego asap and there's been elders meetings about this consolidation.

my questions is why after selling off all this real estate in new york for over a billion dollars are they still acting like thier broke?

Rattigan350

This is no speculation. Back in the late 90s I had a list of the congregations of the state I was from. There were 350 congregations in 230 Kingdom Halls.

I compared that list to what is currently listed on Jw.org.

There have been about 36 congregation and KH deleted.

4 congregations deleted from multiples congs per KH.

One city had 3 congs in one KH and 2 in another now there is 4 in one KH.

There are 4 congregations that remained in intact but they sold their KH and are going to a more distant KH.

The major metropolitan city had roughly 23 Kingdom Halls then that don't exist now and 6 that exist now but not today. I can't guess exactly how the congregations were moved, or created or deleted with all that.

Some new congregations were created but they were foreign language.

Today I get 304 congregations in 169 KH total so a net loss of 50 congregations and 61 KH in the state over the past 20 years.

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The phrase "one of Jehovah's Witnesses"

by Ding in

jws don't say, "i am a jehovah's witness.".

instead, they say, "i am one of jehovah's witnesses.".

what does the second way of saying it convey that the first does not?.

Rattigan350

Carla said "I don't anybody that considers jw's as 'Chrisitan'."

In theory they are supposed to be but in action they are more pharisee