Elders are older men and they would be the equivalent of the older men of the tribes of Israel.
In the congregations they have the role of overseers of the congregations.
Rattigan350
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What's the job of an elder?
by asp59 inwith the current discussion if someone in his twenties can be elder or not.
i'm interested in what a elder in jw land really do.
all speeches already come in video format from headquarters.
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New Article - Birthdays, Why the Watchtower stance is wrong
by jwfacts ini have a new article at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/birthdays.php outlining why the watchtower stance against birthdays is wrong.
there have been a number of threads on jwn discussing this, and the article collates and summarises the points raised in these threads.
please feel free to point out any errors in grammar or logic.
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Rattigan350
"we all have only one Birth, day. Each year after that is just an anniversary “" That is so correct. Like a wedding is once and then after that it is a wedding anniversary.
But the JW stance on birthday celebrations is wrong because: people in the Bible killed others on their birthday celebrations so that automatically makes such things generally wrong.
The Bible describes the devil as a dragon, so all dragons are bad.
The Bible says a serpent, snake was used by the Devil, so are all snakes bad?
What is bad is the generalization, the stereotyping. One thing bad, everything of that category is bad. is the opposite true? One thing good and everything in that category is good?
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New Article - Birthdays, Why the Watchtower stance is wrong
by jwfacts ini have a new article at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/birthdays.php outlining why the watchtower stance against birthdays is wrong.
there have been a number of threads on jwn discussing this, and the article collates and summarises the points raised in these threads.
please feel free to point out any errors in grammar or logic.
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Rattigan350
This is just them being pharisees in creating rules from things vaguely in the Bible. They made refusing birthday treats a matter of loyalty to Jehovah.
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This question is for PIMO
by Iamallcool ini have been out for years!
how often do people get df’d in 2021?
just wondering!
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Rattigan350
among that list, which of those would pass constitutional muster of not being vague?
bestiality and lap dances and use of tobacco and sexual abuse of children? The rest are pharisee laws.
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GB 2021 Update #10 - "get vaccinated"
by neat blue dog inam the turd comes the closest to just coming right out and telling jws they have to do it.
he says, 'there's no need to worry, just keep doing what works: wear masks, wash your hands and get vaccinated when possible'.
the busybodies are going to be even more insufferable now than they have been.
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Rattigan350
He said that 25,658 have died from Covid. Is that worldwide? That is 3.2% of the 800,000 that have died. But 25K is a high number. I would expect that the JWs to have no deaths because they are following the government protocols and doing all of the safety stuff
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Dating in the Org
by Rattigan350 inyou men, who were brothers in the congregation and you were dating sisters in the congregation, did you find that they cared more about how you made them look in the congregation than they cared about you?.
you women, who were sisters in the congregation and you were dating brothers in the congregation, were you more concerned about how he affected your status & how you were viewed in the congregation, than you cared about him?.
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Rattigan350
You men, who were brothers in the congregation and you were dating sisters in the congregation, did you find that they cared more about how you made them look in the congregation than they cared about you?
You women, who were sisters in the congregation and you were dating brothers in the congregation, were you more concerned about how he affected your status & how you were viewed in the congregation, than you cared about him?
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What are the maim lies Apostates tell about Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Vanderhoven7 inmain not maim.
picked this answer up on quora.
please add other apostate "lies" you are aware of.. "jehovah's witnesses cannot refute the facts in the so-called “ lies” against them, and when they do, they shamelessly lie and tell half-truths to defend their mind-controlling sect.. their new york based leaders tell them that anything negative said about their sect is a “ lie “ from “ mentally diseased, bitter apostates”.. jws are yet to come to terms with the fact that we are in the information age and they can no longer get away with lying to protect their organisation.. for example, one of the “ lies “ told about them is that they shun anyone who leaves the cult , including family members, including their own children.. another “ lie “ is that jws are ready to allow their children to die rather than accept a life-saving blood transfusion.. the child sex abuse coverup in the cult is also said to be a “lie “.
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Rattigan350
One of the main lies is that it is significant that the Watchtower said Jesus is not their mediator.
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Child pornography should NOT be automatically handled by a judicial committee
by pistolpete innew information added to the "shepherd the flock elder's book" .
they have updated their policy on viewing child pornography.. from a congregation standpoint it is not viewed as child sex abuse and is something that should not be automatically handled by a judicial committee.
it states that a person viewing child pornography should be strongly counseled.
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Rattigan350
Listener, why are you quoting websites.
18 U.S.C. § 1466A (2018)
(a) In General.—Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, or attempts or conspires to do so
(b) Additional Offenses.—Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly possesses a visual depiction of any kind
Does not say viewing. but it might be presumed that viewing would include possessing. Someone could view without doing those things mentioned above.
(e) Affirmative Defense.—It shall be an affirmative defense to a charge of violating subsection (b) that the defendant—
(1) possessed less than 3 such visual depictions; and
(2) promptly and in good faith, and without retaining or allowing any person, other than a law enforcement agency, to access any such visual depiction—
(A) took reasonable steps to destroy each such visual depiction; or
(B) reported the matter to a law enforcement agency and afforded that agency access to each such visual depiction.
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Child pornography should NOT be automatically handled by a judicial committee
by pistolpete innew information added to the "shepherd the flock elder's book" .
they have updated their policy on viewing child pornography.. from a congregation standpoint it is not viewed as child sex abuse and is something that should not be automatically handled by a judicial committee.
it states that a person viewing child pornography should be strongly counseled.
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Rattigan350
" shouldn’t the elders be calling the cops?" Viewing child porn is not illegal. Knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute or mails is illegal.
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What changes are on the way?
by insearchoftruth ini was listening to the co talk to my wife’s congregation on sunday and pretty much the complete talk was justifying doctrinal and organizational changes and pretty much preparing the ‘rank and file’ for upcoming changes.
anyone on hear have any insight of what ‘new light’ is coming in the future?.
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Rattigan350
"Thev can change 607 BC to 586 which is the actual year of overthrow of Theocracy from Jerusalem, according to all reliable SOURCES INCLUDING JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA, and reach 1935 as the end of gentile period."
No, changing the destruction of Jerusalem to 586 would still keep the end of the gentile times as 1914 area.
That is how it was prior to Nelson Barbour changed it.
Vidqun was right. " in 605 BCE, Daniel and his companions would be deported" That is when the 70 years started ending in 537, give or take a few years. But that is not the issue here. The issue is when did the kings in the line of David cease being sovereign on Jehovah's throne. When that happened, that is when the gentile times started. That happened 2520 years prior to 1914 CE.