"Jesus worked closely with his Father, Jehovah, helping Him to create all other things. "
That is no change. Jesus helped with the creation. That is how dinosaurs came to be. Jesus like, any child, like to play with them.
Rattigan350
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Are there any new ideas coming from the Watchtower Society?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inmy brother ( who is an elder ) tries very hard to get me back to the meetings.
he calls me every time he and his son ( he's also an elder) give a public talk.
they send me the zoom i.d.
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anonymous said "the Bible makes clear that for salvation you need to partake of the flesh and blood of Christ. It’s a cornerstone of the Christian faith for most denominations. John 6:53–57 - it’s a command from Jesus himself."
"Most truly I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves.u 54 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will resurrectv him on the last day; 55 for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and I in union with him. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will live because of me."
People rejected Jesus' sayings because they thought he was referring to his literal flesh and blood, which was against the Law. But he was referring to putting faith in himself as the sacrifice. The last supper was just a symbol of that but it does not mean that one has to eat bread and drink wine on a particular day.
Jesus does not give commands.
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JWs and the constitution of the United States
by Vanderhoven7 injws will not salute the flag.
however they will support the us constitution which gives congress the right to establish the military and to declare and to make war.
isn’t that tant amount to supporting the country going to war?.
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" how about Watchtower supporting the United Nations as a Non Governmental Organization for ten years up until 2000"
How about it? I don't understand what the problem is.
True, the UN is the image of the wild beast, however Babylon, and Rome were tools that Jehovah used to punish unfaithful Jerusalem. The wild beast is a tool that Jehovah will use to attack the harlot, Babylon the Great.
The Watchtower being an NGO of the UN is not a bad thing. Yes, the UN will be destroyed. But until then, Revelation does not say that it is bad.
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JWs and the constitution of the United States
by Vanderhoven7 injws will not salute the flag.
however they will support the us constitution which gives congress the right to establish the military and to declare and to make war.
isn’t that tant amount to supporting the country going to war?.
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" which gives congress the right to establish the military and to declare and to make war. "
Where does the idea come from that Jws are against war and the military?
Israel had wars. David and Saul were the military.
The idea is that JWs are against nationalizing the military and thus creating wars from country vs country, all of these little ants fighting each other when the focus should be on God's kingdom.
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The Hubris of the Governing Body
by cofty init's difficult to comprehend how arrogant the members of the governing body must be to sanction much of the content that appears in their literature.
they identify themselves as the 'faithful and discreet slave' - that alone requires an astonishing degree of pride.
but what is even more amazing - arguably to the level of insanity - is the way they then use that phrase to elevate themselves above the rest of the organisation.
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"They identify themselves as the 'Faithful and Discreet Slave' "
Why does that even matter?
Because Jesus focused on that for a second among other endtime statements? But he gave no further explanation.
Why does that then make it relevant?
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Do you know of any church that KNOWS God?
by the-MadJW ini mean, the jws have many faults, as each of us have.. do you know any other group that does?.
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One of the things that annoys me about JWs is that they say they go in the ministry to teach people about Jehovah.
Then I wonder: What is there to teach about Jehovah?
He created the heavens and the earth and then neglected it.
There are a bunch of details about what people think that God is pleased with or displeased with, but no one knows God.
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Jesus Never Limited His Promies to 144K
by Sea Breeze inwhat were we thinking?
mat_10:32 whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will i confess also before my father which is in heaven.. mat_10:33 but whosoever shall deny me before men, him will i also deny before my father which is in heaven.. mat_12:50 for whosoever shall do the will of my father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.. mat_16:25 for whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.. mat_18:4 whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.. mar_10:15 verily i say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of god as a little child, he shall not enter therein.. luk 6:47,48 whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, i will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man .
which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock.
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None of what the OP emphasized changes what Revelation 7 & 14 says.
What Revelation says completes what was started back at Sinai. Actually before with Abraham.
There was a sacrifice, a temple. Those things can't be denied. But those were ineffective.
Jesus in the heavenly temple will have 144,000 others serving with him.
All of those Whosoevers, does not change that. Salvation is more than going to heaven and Jesus knew that.
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" and only one token minority"
Why does that even matter?
There is no policy race wise anywhere.
The reason that people call for races and women on the supreme courts is because they deal with racial and gender issues, but the governing body has no racial issues to deal with, nor gender issues.
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" when the Bible clearly says that ALL Christians should take from the emblems"
The Bible says no such thing.
The Bible only says that the 11 were to partake in remembrance of Jesus.
What authority does Paul have to alter that?
All since then have the 4 gospels to read from to remember Jesus, not bread and wine.
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Did the ransom sacrifice even work?
by Sharpie inshower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.
as per doctrine.
is still alive in heaven right now correct?
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Cofty said "you might be interested to know that everything you just just wrote would have been a complete mystery to the Bible Students of Russell's time."
Why does that matter? I'm not talking about Russell. I'm talking about the application of the ransom.
But then without the ransom, what hope does anyone have?