Posts by Rattigan350

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Did The Australian Royal Commission Actually Achieve Anything?

by NotFormer in

i've been going through past threads on here during the period i was not very interested in what was going on in jw world.

the australian royal commission era caused a great deal of excitement and inspired some hope, but did any good come of it?.

the 2 witness rule in child sexual assault cases still exists, and elders still don't call the police and try to handle things in house.

Rattigan350

It got people believing in the boogieman.

"The 2 witness rule in child sexual assault cases still exists,"

Good. and let's hope it says. God created it for a reason and the reason has not been eliminated just because the Law of Moses was eliminated.

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Jeffrey Jackson: Too much excitement got in the way for the ''false dates''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

annual meeting 2019—talks and 2020 year textthe governing body members are nothing but a bunch of weasels.

here is a talk by jeffrey jackson on how the governing body ''the slave class'' has remained spiritually awake over 100 years and alerted its members.. he looks back on the ''faithful and discreet slaves'' false dates over the 100 years: '' but at times, we look back over 100 years, and there were times they got excited about a certain year or time, and the end didn't come at that time.''.

he makes the comparison between the ''slave class ( who disappointed others when the end didn't come ) to a barking watchdog ( who in his enthusiasm barks at nothing in the middle of the night and wakes up the owner).

Rattigan350

There are no false dates. False expectations, but not false dates.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Tattoos

by NotFormer in

i was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.

if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?

would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.

Rattigan350

When donating plasma the person is asked if they had gotten a tattoo or had one touched up. So there is something not good about tattoos.

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Jehovah's Witnesses and Tattoos

by NotFormer in

i was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.

if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?

would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.

Rattigan350

Do Tattoos Affect Acting Careers?

When you’re starting out in your career, it’s possible your visible tattoos may present obstacles. Casting directors may not want to hire you for certain roles because of production concerns. They may worry that your tattoos will distract the audience. Your tattoos might not fit the character breakdown, and a project may not have the time or budget required to hide your tattoos with makeup. In short, without the prestige of a successful acting career, having visible tattoos is not a deal breaker, but it could limit the roles for which you will be considered.

While more and more people seem to be getting tattoos, their presence and placement on the body can send certain messages. Casting directors may assume that audiences will associate facial tattoos or lower back tattoos with stereotypes. Visual media like film, television, and theater are meant to appeal to as broad an audience as possible, so producers and directors will always consider how a mainstream audience will react

Can a Film Studio Be Sued Over an Actor’s Tattoo?

It’s rare—but it has happened. In 2011, tattoo artist S. Victor Whitmill sued Warner Bros. to stop the release of “The Hangover Part II,” claiming that a scene in which a character has a copy of one of Mike Tyson’s tattoos violated Whitmill’s copyright for the original. Warner Bros. ultimately settled with Whitmill, but the case raised real questions about the rights tattoo artists have to their work when it appears in film.

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May 23 Watchtower

by Listener in

study article 22 is headed.

"keep traveling on the "way of holiness".

this article states that since 1919, having left babylon the great in that year, jws today are traveling on 'the way of holiness" (a figurative highway) as it takes them through the spiritual paradise and leads them through to future kingdom blessings.. they say that 'preparatory work' of that highway began centuries earlier.

Rattigan350

"You would think that those who proclaim to be his witnesses would get the pronunciation of his name correct wouldn`t you ?"

Define correctness?

And how would that correctness be reached or known?

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Were can you find Jesus' witnesses?

by Kosonen in

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in the revelation book it talks about jesus' witnesses.

were are true witnesses of jesus, not those who teach that jesus is the almighty god, but really true witnesses of jesus.. this is what the revelation book ways about witnesses of jesus:.

19:10 ..... brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning jesus.

Rattigan350

Oh, please. Stop being so nit picketing over words and phrases.

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Is the WT right that the Lamb's marriage is after Armageddon?

by Kosonen in

the wt org claims that the lamb's marriage will happen after armageddon, despite the fact that revelation 19 very clearly says that the lamb's marriage happens after the destruction of babylon the great.

and that after the lamb's marriage he with heavenly armies will go to destroy the wicked.. the wt claims that the order of events in revelation 19 is not really in that order referring to psalm 45. but i can't find in psalm 45 any explicit contradiction to revelation 19. .

paragraph 10 in the following article shows the wt org's view point:.

Rattigan350

"The WT org claims that the Lamb's marriage will happen after Armageddon"

Who gives a rat's ass???

If it is after armageddon, why do we today care??

Come on people, let's waste our time on something more important.

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Luke 23:43 the NWT

by Ade in

luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

Rattigan350

Why are you talking about Tartarus? Isn't that the stuff you put on fish? Maybe that's why Peter mentioned it, he was a fisherman.

I don't really adhere to what Peter said. What does he know. Same for Paul. He had no more knowledge than what the prior scriptures say.

And I certainly do not care what Robert Bowman said about anything.

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My report from the "trying my patience" DC

by nowwhat? in

embedded in the cleveland ohio convention.

pre covid attendance was always 7k+ this year 4500.. 37baptised mixed bag.

less then half were children.. as far as patience goes, it can certainly help you be a better person when dealing with others but needless to say, this having patience waiting for jehovah is pure b.s.!

Rattigan350

" it`s not Jehovah who comes to their rescue ,but Satans world who bails them out ."

That's not the case.

Revelation says that the earth meaning the people come to the rescue of God's people.

Also Jehovah uses the nations for his purposes such as how he used Babylon and Roman armies to destroy Jerusalem and will use the nations to destroy false religion. Rev 17:17 For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast.

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Luke 23:43 the NWT

by Ade in

luke 23:43 - and jesus said to him, "positively i say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.

nwt places comma here , giving a totally different meaning to the verse.

now the average jw uses this to back their doctrine and it seems in itself virtually impossible to reason with them on it.

Rattigan350

I did a search on John 3:13 and there is a biblical question/answer site.

The writer says "Jesus was not teaching that no one had ever gone to heaven before. Obviously, the Old Testament saints had gone to heaven (or paradise) when they died (Mark 12:26-27), and Enoch and Elijah had been taken there without dying".

It seems that understanding Jesus is beyond the skills of many. If the Old Testament saints when to heaven when they died, then what is the meaning of John 14:6 "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." If OT saints went to heaven, then Jesus is/was not the Way. They didn't need him to get to the father.

When Jehovah said he is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, I am the God of the living", he wasn't stating that they are alive, but that he had the ability to give them life. as vs 24 said "you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God?" Jesus said "When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage" indicating future tense.