Posts by Rattigan350

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Is there “new light” on 1914?

by wallsofjericho in

i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

is this regarding 1914?

or micheal the arch angel?.

Elderberry said "For a start there is no 2nd greater fulfilment of the 7 times prophecy. That was just about Nebuchadnezzar living like a beast for 7 years. William Miller made a stupid theory about it and JW went even further with Millers theory and made it even more stupid."

The fulfillment of the 7 times being around 1914 did not come from William Miller. It came back in the 1820s with John Brown and E B Elliott and Henry Clinton.

Also without the second fulfillment, how does Jesus become king? There are many prophecies stating that Jesus will become king. But he didn't. He lived and died and did not become king.

The kings in the line of David ended with Jehoiakim in 607, not the destruction of Jerusalem, and then the kingdom was paused for 2520 years. Without that pausing from Dan 4. There would be no basis for Jesus to become king and the events of Revelation to start.

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Is there “new light” on 1914?

by wallsofjericho in

i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

is this regarding 1914?

or micheal the arch angel?.

Rattigan350

"The 1914 doctrine is not sustainable , 607 is a made up year , it has to be eliminated."

On Twitter I was arguing with Trinitarians who say that John 8:58 was connected to ex 3:14. Then I understood, if there were that connection, then the apostles like Paul would have made that connection. But that connection was made centuries later so it is extrabiblical.

Here, 607 is correct for the beginning of the 7 times and 1914 is the end of them. It can't be eliminated as it is not a Watchtower originated doctrine. Would it have been something that the apostles would have connected? It came from Daniel. The apostles didn't mention the 70 weeks, but they knew it and looked to it.

There were many things that Paul was vague on and he didn't know because he didn't have the Revelation. But it does say in Daniel 12:9 "Go, Daniel, because the words are to be kept secret and sealed up until the time of the end."

Somethings were not meant to be understood until the end times.

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Smoking

by NotFormer in

is it likely to be removed from the list of disfellowshippable offences?

given that the ban on smoking 🚬 is completely unbiblical*, might they ever remove it?.

*even mainstream christianity can only come up with one verse "against" it, the one that says that the body is the temple of the holy spirit.

Rattigan350

Does it need to be 'biblical' to ban it?

Everyone should voluntarily shun smokers because they stink.

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Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

by FFGhost in

so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

the “door of the ark” is closed.

Rattigan350

It's not old light, new light.

Back then that is what they wanted people to believe to motivate them to preach and go to meetings and stay loyal.

That didn't mean that is how it would end up.

What they teach now at the AGM is the way it has always been. That is how Jehovah had it.

The problem is that people are concerned with living through the end.

I think that I'm going to be telling people that I don't care if I make it through armageddon and I don't want to live in the kingdom.

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Did God know adam and eve would sin?

by gavindlt in

to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..

Rattigan350

Of course not.

If he did what purpose would that serve?

Predestination makes no sense

God is not all knowing. He does not know the future beyond what he wants to know or plans to do.

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Why are the 2 newly appointed Governing Body Members from Bethel, when there are anointed ones all over the world? they could have used.

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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books & brochures.

enjoy life forever!—an interactive bible course.

Rattigan350

There are no more anointed ones left in the world. One does not have to be anointed by holy spirit to be on the Governing body, one just has to say one was.

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My decision.

by MissDaSilva in

jw
friends

i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.

i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.

amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.

Rattigan350

jhine, why does what Paul wrote matter? However, they at that time didn't have the stories so the memorial was their way of remembering and since Paul was a historian, he used the history that he knew.

Even then it only applied to the people of his day, those that were anointed with holy spirit.

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My decision.

by MissDaSilva in

jw
friends

i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.

i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.

amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.

Rattigan350

We were never instructed to observe the memorial.

Jesus only told the 11 that was there. They were the only ones who could keep doing that in remembrance of him because they were the only ones with memories of him.

None of us today have memories of Jesus. None of us walked and talked with him. We only know him because we read stories of him. So to remember him, we just reread the stories.

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NWPublisher app

by Rattigan350 in

i heard on the meeting about apps called nwpublisher and cartsmart.

new world publisher (nw publisher) is a free apple ios and google android app created by jehovah’s witnesses for jehovah’s witnesses.

congregation publishers can install new world publisher on their mobile devices and be more united and connected with their congregation.. cartsmart was built to streamline the way we schedule our public witnessing shifts.

Rattigan350

I heard on the meeting about apps called NWPublisher and Cartsmart

New World Publisher (NW Publisher) is a free Apple iOS and Google Android app created by Jehovah’s Witnesses for Jehovah’s Witnesses. Congregation publishers can install New World Publisher on their mobile devices and be more united and connected with their congregation.

CartSmart was built to streamline the way we schedule our public witnessing shifts. It's goal is to provide the congregation with a hassle free way of finding and scheduling their shifts for public witnessing, and to give the servant body an easy way to let the congregation know what is available, and to simplify the scheduling process.

Jehovah help us all. This religion is not what we've grown up in is totally unrecognizable.

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JWs And Superstitions

by NotFormer in

prompted by a mention in a different thread.. cracks in the sidewalk, a pinch of salt over the shoulder, black cats🐈‍⬛; do jws have such superstitious beliefs.

are they allowed to?

would they be counselled if the elders became aware?.

Rattigan350

I remember back in 1976 when I was a kid the songs "Devil Woman" and "Magic Man" were considered bad. Also Paul McCartney's "With a little Luck". I've always liked that song, but couldn't let others know.

Now with this thought of Jehovah being offended by violent movies, etc