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The doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses are correct. It is the organizational policies that people have a problem with.
Rattigan350
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Finger of God
by peacefulpete ina myriad (or close) of threads have discussed the depiction of deity in the ot and nt.
many exjws simply can't seem to wrap their minds around the concept of hypostases of god.
hypostases as i'm using the term refer to personified conceptualizations of divinity often acting in a particular role.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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Rattigan350
Banning blood transfusions is not following God's law. God's law only was for not eating or drinking blood. Neither the apostles nor the modern day governing body has the authority to expand that law to other means. Expanding laws is what the pharisees did and we know that Jesus did not approve of that.
The problem is that they painted themselves into a corner to where they can't change that without backlash.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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Jeffro said "Why do you imagine that some random person who doesn’t accept all JW teachings (or even a substantial amount of Christian teaching) anyway should be the benchmark for caring about things related to JWs?"
Who is this random person?
Paul is not a JW teaching. Paul is another of the "No one ever got fired for buying IBM" excuses.
My point was that you all focus too much on the GB.
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Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?
by Sea Breeze inlooks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.
why don't the jw's do the same?.
from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).
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Vanderhoven said '"a physical body is required to feel physical pain"'
"Tell that to the rich man and the billions of human beings alledgedly burning in Hades as we speak."
The rich man was not real.
There is no one burning in sheol/hades/hell. Never ever has been.
Gen 37:35 Jacob said "I will go down into the Grave/sheol/hades/hell mourning my son!"
If that were a place of burning torment, why was he looking forward to going there?
Think about more than the cryptic statements of Jesus.
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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Why do we care what the Governing body does?
I'm not going to lower my standards just because they do.
I'm still not wearing a beard.
I'm still wearing a coat and tie to the meetings and field service, except I don't go out in FS.
I don't care about how to treat DFd ones because that was Paul's instructions to the Corinthians and I don't follow what Paul said.
So I ask, why do you all care when I don't?
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New rules for dress & greeting disfellowshipped: It's even worse!
by neat blue dog ini know they're panicking and trying to gain favor with governments, former members, prospective converts & those who are teetering, all for financial worries.
still, the latest update in some ways made things worse, and if there's any jws watching it who are beginning to wake up it should be very disturbing.. starting with dress codes: they say that suits, ties & skirts are no longer required, but in so doing they admit that they were required, something not often appearing as an explicit command in print.
(similar to how lett referred to the "policy on beards" in his video, even though this direct policy wasn't made available to rank and file.
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Why would people not want to dress up? What every happened to respect?
There does not need to be a biblical basis for dressing up.
Respect goes beyond the Bible.
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Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?
by Sea Breeze inlooks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.
why don't the jw's do the same?.
from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).
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9 pages of a thread containing wrong answers. Sheol/hades/hell is not symbolic and it is not literal. It is the state of being dead. Dead is dead. Not living on anywhere, until the resurrection. First the dead in Christ from Pentecost to 1914 were raised, then the rest of the 144,000 were raised when they died from 1918 to now. Then in the kingdom hell will be emptied of its dead by the people being resurrected to earth.
The problem is that so many people read the Bible shallowly such as "I would prefer to be at home with the Lord." They take Paul's words at face value. What Paul said applied only to him and those of his time. But people like to fantasize and want all of the gusto and glory that they see as the Lord can provide them.
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Why Do JW's Believe that Hell is Symbolic When the Disciples of the Apostles believed it Was Literal ?
by Sea Breeze inlooks like the early christians believed jesus when he warned about hell over 40 times.
why don't the jw's do the same?.
from “the epistle of barnabas” (70-130ad).
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Why do people follow quotes and saying rather than learn the mechanics of how things work?
How does hellfire work?
When did it start?
How was it told to Adam & Eve?
What was the criteria to go there or not?
Weren't they told from dust you are and dust you will return?
No mention of spirit living on.
What is there to burn?Since the dead are unconscious, Jesus likened it to sleeping, how can they feel anything or know anything?
If it is eternal punishment in hell, why does Revelation 20:13 say that hell will be emptied and then hell will be thrown into the lake of fire
No one asks these questions because they would rather just follow.
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How do JWs know that less than 150,000 Christians existed before the 20th Century?
by Vanderhoven7 inaccording to watchtower, only anointed christians existed between the first and 20th centuries.
the great crowd of other sheep only began forming after the 20th century started.. how do they support this conclusion?
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You have to remember that to be Born Again into the new covenant, one must be born of water and spirit.
Anointed by God with holy spirit. Why would he anoint people entrenched in false worship?
And baptized in water. Catholic baptisms were not recognized by God.
So his choices were slim to none.
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How do JWs know that less than 150,000 Christians existed before the 20th Century?
by Vanderhoven7 inaccording to watchtower, only anointed christians existed between the first and 20th centuries.
the great crowd of other sheep only began forming after the 20th century started.. how do they support this conclusion?
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Rattigan350
"only anointed Christians existed between the first and 20th centuries"
Not so.
There were Christians, but God did the choosing as to whom he would anoint.
But then the weeds were mixed in with the wheat so any that God didn't have a good batch to choose from.
During the middle ages, Jehovah chose whom he needed to choose so that there were wheat during all of those centuries. There didn't have to be many, just one or two.
There are those that believe the church is orthodox and believe all of those doctrines because they are taught in orthodoxy. But if orthodoxy is the touchstone to them, why was there a need for a reformation?