I say that Lloyd Evans is the one with the rant. It is a 2 hour and 44 minute video in response to next week's convention talk. Evans just wants to hear himself.
Rattigan350
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Leaked David Spane Apostate Rant? (Upcoming Lloyd Evans Video)
by Jofi_Wofo inlloyd has a reminder set for a "leaked" video that he will be reviewing tomorrow, but it lacks details in the description.
does anyone know what video he is referring to, or is this an upcoming loyd evans exclusive?.
i find leaks exciting, especially if it's something that was never meant to be public and puts some serious egg on the faces of the blundering body..
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I think Splane is the Cult Leader. And I think there are more apostates working on the inside than we can imagine.
by pistolpete inso in the latest leaked video, splane goes on this crazy delusional rant about how faithful witnesses should never research their faith.. he criticizes the worldly court system and says they are not fair toward witnesses and the organization.
he says the court system is rigged and witnesses who get convicted, (implied child sex abusers) are innocent.
he is literally trying to justify child molesters and elders who cover them, as good people in "god's eyes" even though "human authorities" may judge them and put them in jail.
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Rattigan350
This is not a video rant. It was the early convention video leaked. It appears to be from Saturday afternoon on the convention
4:20 “Put Up a Hard Fight for the Faith”!
(Jude 3; Proverbs 14:15; Romans 16:17)
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Leaked David Spane Apostate Rant? (Upcoming Lloyd Evans Video)
by Jofi_Wofo inlloyd has a reminder set for a "leaked" video that he will be reviewing tomorrow, but it lacks details in the description.
does anyone know what video he is referring to, or is this an upcoming loyd evans exclusive?.
i find leaks exciting, especially if it's something that was never meant to be public and puts some serious egg on the faces of the blundering body..
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Rattigan350
The problem I find with this and everyone seems to be ignoring is: If they say that criticisms against the organization is bad, then they are stating that the organization is perfect and can not have improvements from anyone anywhere. I don't see that example in the Bible. That is not humble. They should be encouraging suggestions and help especially from the lowliest of them. But where do they get their changes from? The governing body, the helpers and others at bethel. That is totally not humble.
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What Did You Think Of The Songs Sung At The Kingdom Hall?
by minimus inwhen i was younger we had song books and i recall that some of the songs were pretty catchy.
then they revised it took some of those songs out, and added more.
i have to admit some songs were pretty good.
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Rattigan350
I didn't like when the 2009 song book came out. They changed the songs and I knew the older ones. I didn't like the changes just like I didn't like the changes to the NWT in 2013.
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What would happen if the Watchtower decided no more meeting at Kingdom Halls, only Zoom?
by pistolpete ini’m seeing my hard core believing relatives slowly losing faith that the watchtower is the organization that “god” is using to represent him on earth.. just about all the churches in their area have opened up.. but not the watchtower.. this is having an affect on the faith of even the old timers.
now the only ones who are still holding the faith are the female jws and only those past 70 years of age.
even my old male jw relative past 70 are starting to say that it can’t be jehovah’s organization because the other churches are all open and god supposed organization who is supposed to preach the warning message is still closed with no open in sight.
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Rattigan350
"I never even imagined that a VIRUS would be the downfall of the Organization."
This sounds like Sword in the Stone where Mim vs Merlin. Mim turned into a dragon and Merlin turned into a germ to defeat Mim.
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Does this look like the WT is going to be around a long time? One Watchtower @ One Awake for the public in 2022
by pistolpete ini keep hearing that the watchtower org is going to be around forever because of the many other religions that have been around a long time.
but i disagree because the wt is not like other religious cults.. the watchtower's breath of life is dependent on the last days that started in 1914. .
you can’t change 1914 without a death blow to the entire organization.. the watchtower's 2nd reason for staying alive, is it's continual urging that the life saving preaching work of warning people is the most important work ever.. but- it's very obvious to many, even the old ones that instead of speeding up the work------the work is slowing down to a drip.. comment by former believer; .
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Rattigan350
It looks like they don't have a writing dept anymore to write new material. And no money for research.
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Jehovah’s Witnesses—the Most Boring People On Earth!
by minimus inwhen i see watchtower videos or interviews i can’t help but notice how bland and boring jws really are!
they are so vanilla.
no excitement, just robotic conversation.. what the hell happened to these people?
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Rattigan350
Not only boring but unhappy.
When someone marries someone not a Witness. It is said that one is disobedient. But if they are happy, why not be happy for them?
When someone wins the lottery, that one is bad. But why not be happy for them?
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WT Teaching On Who The NT was Written For
by Sea Breeze inmaybe someone can help me here:when i got baptized at age 23, an elder dropped a bombshell on me.
he said that the new testament wasn't written for the great crowd (me).
he said that it only applies to the anointed, and "by extension" the nt applies to the great crowd.
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Rattigan350
The 4 gospels are written as histories of Jesus so they are not written for anyone in particular. Same with Acts.
The letters of Paul were written for the congregations and they were anointed, so they were written for the anointed in those congregations. Same could be said of Peter, James, John and Jude's letters.
Revelation was a vision of the future.
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Do You Think Trump Will Make A Comeback?
by minimus indo you think he could get reinstated as president?
do you think trump will run again for president or do you think he will just be a force for the republican party behind the scenes?.
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Rattigan350
Trump is still president. Why would ne need a comeback?
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Why No Disfellowshipping Before 1952?
by blondie inwhy was there no official arrangement before 1952 to disfellowship people?
was there a different procedure with a different name?
was no one committing disfellowshipping offenses?
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Rattigan350
Because prior to that there weren't congregations for that to matter and the organization was in it's growth. The Rutherford era didn't necessitate it, it necessitated neutrality and anticathalocism. Sort of like the 'higher powers' in the Rutherford era necessitated it being Jehovah God and Jesus christ, but after that it was the governments.