denial..
Questions and answers really isn't the issue. The issue is why do they go from the congregations to the world. Why do they get beards, tattoos, cuss & swear, celebrate birthdays and holidays.
I don't like how Witnesses say "Do you know more than the governing body"? Sure, shouldn't that be our goal, to want and have better than what they provide? I want what Christianity offers and I want more than that, and better than that.
anyone who has been of this forum in the past few days has seen doubting thomas (an active jw) refuse over and over to provide even one scripture that can show how a jw can get their sins forgiven while outside of the new covenant as described in mt.
26: 27-28. yet, he claims to believe in the blood covering of jesus while at the same time personally rejecting the new covenant "for forgiveness of sins".
his contradictory claims are common among jw's.
SEa Breeze, Points 1-3 are incorrect.
Jehovah is our father because he was our creater
Yes, Jws are declared righteous from faith and when their sins are removed.
Yes, JWs have had their sins forgiven.
And, Yes, Jesus is the mediator for the anointed only because only they need a mediator.
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
Sea breeze, I"m not rejecting anything. The bread and wine are only for the apostles in that room with him. The whole memorial thing is not for anyone today.
He said to keep doing this in remembrance of him. They did not have the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John to remember him by. They just had their memories. Like the passover was given in memory of their leaving Egypt, This passover was given in memory of Jesus passing over their sins.
But today we have the 4 books to remember him by. So instead of bread and wine, we reread the books in remembrance of him.
anyone who has been of this forum in the past few days has seen doubting thomas (an active jw) refuse over and over to provide even one scripture that can show how a jw can get their sins forgiven while outside of the new covenant as described in mt.
26: 27-28. yet, he claims to believe in the blood covering of jesus while at the same time personally rejecting the new covenant "for forgiveness of sins".
his contradictory claims are common among jw's.
One does not need to be in the new covenant to get their sins forgiven.
The new covenant is between Jehovah God and 144,000 Israelites of the spirit as they are kings and priest.
Any non-Israelites of the spirit who accept Jesus are saved by the high priest Jesus with his sacrifice.
Do you need a specific scripture telling you that? That's the problem with JWs is that they use scriptures and build on them and then build further upon them. But writers of scriptures don't write for all questions especially ones not asked of them.
Such things were taught by the Law and the temple, not specific scripture. Scriptures are interpretation of the law and temple.
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
"How do you expect to survive the judgement after you die as described in Hebrews 9:27 while personally rejecting the blood covenant offered for the forgiveness of sins in Mt. 26: 27-28?"
What are you talking about here? There is no judgment after one dies. " And just as it is reserved for men to die once for all time, but after this to receive a judgment," The judgment comes when Jesus resurrects people.
And what is this rejecting the blood covenant?
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
Yes, you can. The governing body is not the be all end all in serving God in the true Religion.
They are just the overseers of the worldwide congregation. They should not be creating rules or doctrine, but people like for them to do so because they are followers.
The first century and 2nd century Christians were JWs that didn't follow the apostles.
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
"The Watchtower is a business pretending to be a religion."
Bingo. You nailed it here.
i am.. they are just fellow brothers, old and getting senile.... but enlightened, despite all the whining.....
"A unique teaching of JW's, presented as "good news" is a two-tier salvation"
Unique is not relevant here. What is relevant is whether it is correct and it is not really a 2 tier salvation.
It is that 144,000 have been ordained for spirit life in heaven to rule with Christ the rest are not.
with the current discussion if someone in his twenties can be elder or not.
i'm interested in what a elder in jw land really do.
all speeches already come in video format from headquarters.
My point was that the Christian congregation was patterned after Israel. The Christian congregation elders would do what the elders in Israel did. And those ones were also lords over the people and became the pharisees.
with the current discussion if someone in his twenties can be elder or not.
i'm interested in what a elder in jw land really do.
all speeches already come in video format from headquarters.
Elders are older men and they would be the equivalent of the older men of the tribes of Israel.
In the congregations they have the role of overseers of the congregations.
