Posts by Rattigan350

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Any in-house word on Ukrainian Witnesses form HQ?

by careful in

has anyone heard any word on active witnesses inside the ukraine and what has been happening with them the last week or so?

i checked the official org website but there was just the expected "fulfilling bible prophecy" stuff.

perhaps someone here has bethel contacts who have leaked some info on what the gb is trying to do for these victims of putin's madness?.

Rattigan350

They take the stand of neutrality, but Jesus never said Christian Neutrality.

He said to be no part of the world, but we are the world.

If your home is being attacked, you defend it.

The JW males should be joining the freedom fighters.

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growing up around the faith, whenever i heard something taught, i'd always think there is a different way of looking at that, probably better.. we always hear "this good news of the kingdom will be preached... " matt 24:14.. so i think, is there more to it than preaching the kingdom?.

luke 17:21 the kjv and asv says "neither shall they say, lo here!

or, lo there!

Rattigan350

Growing up around the faith, Whenever I heard something taught, I'd always think there is a different way of looking at that, probably better.

We always hear "This Good News of the Kingdom will be preached... " Matt 24:14.

So I think, is there more to it than preaching the kingdom?

Luke 17:21 the KJV and ASV says "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you", (which is where they get the wrong belief that the kingdom is in their hearts) but many other bibles including the NWT say "nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you"

What was in the midst of them was Jesus. So the Kingdom of God was also another way of saying it's king, Jesus.

So, in Matt 24:14 "This good news of the Kingdom" could also mean the king of that kingdom. Jesus would be preached in all the inhabited earth.

Which is what Act 1:8 in the NLT says "And you will be my witnesses, telling people about me everywhere—in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”"

The Witnesses are preaching about the Kingdom when they should be preaching about the King.

But if you write to the GB and tell them that, you will be brought before a committee. Sad.

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Awake magazine 1980 -Movie "The Exorcist" caused demonic possessions and murders!

by Witness 007 in

awake 12/8 p.11 "since the release of the movie the excorsist some years ago many reports are on file of the adverse effects on those who saw it...mareen was an atheist who went to see it saying it was the most terrifying thing i had ever seen.

i was shaking all over.

during the coming weeks i was frightened to go to bed.

Rattigan350

And in the late 70s conservative religious ministers would teach that Satan put backwards messages in records and that KISS stood for Knights in Satan's Service.

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Back to the Meetings. It's Offical!

by pistolpete in

yep, the vacation is over, it's time to go to work------for free!

😭😢😓😰😡.

https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/.

Rattigan350

But who can afford to go. This is the time to keep the Zoom meetings. Remember that in 2008 they eliminated the book study from the gas crunch then. One fewer meeting to drive to. Now with the sold off Kingdom halls and the greater distance many have to travel they will be hurting.

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A little something you have not yet heard.

by lastmanstanding in

i hope to make a very interesting post here, and informative.

i’m quite sure no one here has heard this content.

i would like to finally make known some heretofore undisclosed details concerning something that has affected probably everyone on this board to some degree.

Rattigan350

"where he talked about the WT being involved with the UN"

They were never involved with the UN. Their being an NGO is not what I would call involvement.

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04-2022 Q from Readers on Divorce

by Rattigan350 in

any comments on the 04/2022 question from readers on divorce and remarriage.. "if a christian divorces his wife without scriptural grounds and then marries another person, how does the congregation view the previous marriage and the new marriage?".

why does that even matter how the congregation views anything?

they should be minding their own business.. if people move to a different area, the congregation wouldn't even know about.. (if a guy remarries a woman with the same first name, she would end up with the same name and no one would know).

Rattigan350

Fooldnomore. Right. It would not be adultery because what is being adulterated? A marriage that no longer exists?

I hear of people, like myself, who have been separated from their spouses because we've been taught that divorce is bad. But is that really what marriage is? People living apart and not agreeing. That's not a marriage. So how could getting a divorce and marrying another be an adulterous marriage if the marriage that one was just in was not a "marriage"

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04-2022 Q from Readers on Divorce

by Rattigan350 in

any comments on the 04/2022 question from readers on divorce and remarriage.. "if a christian divorces his wife without scriptural grounds and then marries another person, how does the congregation view the previous marriage and the new marriage?".

why does that even matter how the congregation views anything?

they should be minding their own business.. if people move to a different area, the congregation wouldn't even know about.. (if a guy remarries a woman with the same first name, she would end up with the same name and no one would know).

Rattigan350

Any comments on the 04/2022 Question from Readers on Divorce and remarriage.

"If a Christian divorces his wife without Scriptural grounds and then marries another person, how does the congregation view the previous marriage and the new marriage?"

Why does that even matter how the congregation views anything? They should be minding their own business.

If people move to a different area, the congregation wouldn't even know about.

(If a guy remarries a woman with the same first name, she would end up with the same name and no one would know)

"In the past, the congregation viewed the new marriage as adulterous as long as the innocent mate was alive, remained unmarried, and was not guilty of sexual immorality"

That's stupid. The whole concept of adulterous marriage made no sense. The first time they had sex would be considered adultery, but then after that they would be fully married and not adultery after that since the prior marriage would be undone and uninstalled.

They are more pharisaic than the phrarisees. Jesus was not even making rules. He was talking to people under the law, and showing what the law was really about. The law does not apply anymore so what he said does not apply anymore.

Do people even know what adultery is? m-w says "adultery is from adulterāre (“to pollute, defile, commit adultery”), a word formed ultimately from the Latin elements ad- “to, near” and alter “other.”" It is more about polluting and defiling the marriage than sex. If the two have been separated, then getting a divorce and then remarried does not pollute or defile that marriage.

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The Watchtower—Study Edition | May 2022

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | may 2022. study article 19. revelation—what it means for you today.

15 satan instigated an attack on the anointed brothers who were taking the lead in the kingdom-preaching work.

prominent ones among them were the figurative “two witnesses” spoken of as being killed.

Rattigan350

It is an accurate interpretation of those Revelation passages based on the events since Revelation was written and the end times.

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What's the deal with Cheese and Apple Danishes at conventions.

by pistolpete in

this was before my time, but there was this post that had 308 comments testifying that the best thing of being a jehovah witness back in the day was the convention's meals.

is this true?.

one quote out of 308;.

Rattigan350

There were food tickets sold and pioneers got free tickets and each item was a certain number of tickets.

Then in 1989 when the literature went no cost, the food was on donation basis too.

Then in 1994, it changed to Bring your own.

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Anthony Morris wants to help inactive ones return to Jehovah

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

jw broadcasting.

news and announcements.

2021 governing body update #10. .

Rattigan350

What makes them think that being inactive in the field service or not watching or being at meetings means they are away from Jehovah?